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#281766 - 21/05/2006 17:39 FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips
papinist
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Registered: 30/12/2001
Posts: 119
Loc: Italy
HI all
While I was cleaning my room :-) I found the famous memory upgrade chips I bought some time ago... I never had time to perform the upgrade so I think it's time to sell them :-(

I have 6 chips (to upgrade 3 MK2a's) bought from Paul Grzelak... I can't remeber how much I paid for, so please PM your offers :-)

I'm in Italy so consider it as positive if you are in Italy or in Europe...

Thanks for your time!
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#281767 - 11/06/2006 13:45 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: papinist]
papinist
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#281768 - 12/06/2006 14:59 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: papinist]
gorman
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Registered: 29/05/2006
Posts: 21
As I asked in the other thread, where you sell your empegs... if you are still selling them, maybe I could be interested in the memory upgrade.

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#281769 - 05/07/2006 21:03 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: papinist]
papinist
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Registered: 30/12/2001
Posts: 119
Loc: Italy
I have sell all my empeg now! (I'm a bit sad of it)
The only thing I still have that remember me of it (apart hours and hours of good in-car music) are these chips... anyone interested?
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#281770 - 13/07/2006 19:26 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: papinist]
keil
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 23
Loc: Los Angeles,CA
I'm interested. Sent a pm.

keil

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#281771 - 29/10/2006 14:12 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: keil]
papinist
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Registered: 30/12/2001
Posts: 119
Loc: Italy
still available...
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#281772 - 29/11/2006 16:03 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: papinist]
papinist
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Registered: 30/12/2001
Posts: 119
Loc: Italy
two pairs sold!

I have the remaining pair (TWO chips for upgrading ONE Mk2a), I'm asking 35 euro, worldwide shipping included.
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#281773 - 16/12/2006 08:27 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: papinist]
papinist
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Registered: 30/12/2001
Posts: 119
Loc: Italy
...and also the last pair is sold.
Thanks dr_dos!
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#281774 - 16/12/2006 10:18 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: papinist]
dr_dos
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Registered: 02/03/2002
Posts: 134
Loc: Bendorf, Germany
Now I just need somebody (preferably from Germany) who can put them into my empeg.

Anyone?

Peter

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#281775 - 16/12/2006 13:35 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: dr_dos]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Now I just need somebody (preferably from Germany) who can put them into my empeg.

Anyone?

Peter


Next summer, after the meet, perhaps ?

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#281776 - 16/12/2006 21:55 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: mlord]
dr_dos
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Registered: 02/03/2002
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Loc: Bendorf, Germany
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Next summer, after the meet, perhaps ?


Hi Mark, I really appreciate your offer, but I'm so desperate getting this v.3 "visual stuttering while caching" thing fixed that I'm looking forward to get the RAM upgrade installed rather earlier than next summer.
How long does it take to send a parcel from Germany to Canada?

Cheers,
Peter

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#281777 - 17/12/2006 03:24 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: dr_dos]
mlord
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I'm so desperate getting this v.3 "visual stuttering while caching" thing fixed


Heh heh.. just teasing about next summer!
But what is this "stuttering problem" you see?
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How long does it take to send a parcel from Germany to Canada?


Only a few days, usually -- less time than from the USA..

But it would take me much longer to get around to doing the soldering, and Canada Customs have a nasty habit of taxing anything that arrives here from overseas!

Cheers!

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#281778 - 17/12/2006 23:48 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: dr_dos]
petteri
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Registered: 02/08/2004
Posts: 434
Loc: Helsinki, Finland
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How long does it take to send a parcel from Germany to Canada?



Well, if you ask those two guys on the FedEx commercial, it can't be done! (or at least you won't get it back!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrMURochE6Y



Edited by petteri (18/12/2006 00:57)

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#281779 - 19/12/2006 05:59 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: mlord]
dr_dos
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But what is this "stuttering problem" you see?


What I mean is when the visual slows down or even freezes for two or three seconds while caching. In Cambridge you told me that this is a bug in v.3 were the empeg runs out of RAM.

Peter

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#281780 - 19/12/2006 08:45 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: dr_dos]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
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Loc: Columbus, OH
Yeah...I get that on both of my players. They both have memory upgrades, so I think that I just need to adjust the Reservecache setting whenever I get around to it.
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#281781 - 19/12/2006 16:25 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: JBjorgen]
Ross Wellington
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Registered: 21/02/2006
Posts: 325
I would like to buy a few sets of upgrade chips.

Please PM me if you have any to sell.

Thanks,

Ross
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#281782 - 19/12/2006 17:34 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: dr_dos]
mlord
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Quote:
But what is this "stuttering problem" you see?


What I mean is when the visual slows down or even freezes for two or three seconds while caching. In Cambridge you told me that this is a bug in v.3 were the empeg runs out of RAM.

Peter


Oh yeah, that problem. Adding memory only makes it worse, though. Installing Hijack helps reduce it some, but not completely.

Cheers

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#281783 - 20/12/2006 09:12 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: mlord]
dr_dos
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Registered: 02/03/2002
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Adding memory only makes it worse, though.


Worse? Didn't you tell me that adding RAM would fix it? I guess if that's not the case I'm going to load v.2.00 again, even though I'll miss the x-fader a lot.

Cheers,
Peter

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#281784 - 20/12/2006 19:06 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: dr_dos]
mlord
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Loc: Canada
The empeg design uses PIO (not DMA) for disk data transfers. Doing a lot of consecutive PIO prevents other stuff from running at the same time (there's only one CPU..).

When the player does readahead, it tries to fill nearly all available memory with data before stopping. The more memory. The more available memory, the longer this takes to complete. While the disk reads are happening, the display updates get stalled, and can appear to stutter.

Adding more RAM helps with large databases, extra apps, etc.. but the player software is pretty clueless about it all, and will just try to hog the CPU while filling up the extra RAM with more tunes..

Cheers

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#281785 - 21/12/2006 03:25 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: mlord]
Ross Wellington
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Registered: 21/02/2006
Posts: 325
Hi,

Is the RAM configured as cache, or an elastic buffer with dynamic pointer(s)?

I use a lot of .WAV files which certainly exceed the buffer size.

I have noticed that if I am listening to a selection and change to another selection it does cause a short delay. The same happens with some long selections. There is always the readahead after the spin-up of the drive. I realize that most of this time is disk spin-up and I will try to temporarilly disable spin-down to verify it.

My questions are:

1) With additional RAM, if I change selections, will it flush the cache, or is it elastic and re-point to a new index and start reading there?

2) Will more RAM worsen the delay with a deeper buffer and cache flush?

3) Will more RAM reduce the readahead delay (read the complete music file) or spend more time filling the buffer?

4) Does the laptop disk drive cache come into play or is it a hinderance with the Empeg?

Thanks,

Ross

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#281786 - 23/12/2006 18:42 Re: FS: MK2a Memory Upgrade chips [Re: mlord]
dr_dos
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Registered: 02/03/2002
Posts: 134
Loc: Bendorf, Germany
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The more available memory, the longer this takes to complete


I see, thanks for the info Mark.

Cheers,
Peter

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