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#296587 - 06/04/2007 15:59 Desktop Tower Defense
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
* Warning! Productivity destroyer! *

I've been hooked on this game all day. It's becoming a problem.

The maddening part is that I can't even get very far on easy mode. Argh.
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#296588 - 06/04/2007 16:38 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Cool. My initial strategy is to build a maze so that all except the flying units have to spend a lot of time going up and down instead of straight to the right. And a few swarm towers seem to keep the flying units at bay. So far I'm on level 33 and only one baddie has gotten through, a boss, and, even then, it was because I accidentally clicked "send next level" before the previous level was done.

Neat game, though.
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#296589 - 06/04/2007 16:55 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Cool. My initial strategy is to build a maze so that all except the flying units have to spend a lot of time going up and down instead of straight to the right. And a few swarm towers seem to keep the flying units at bay. So far I'm on level 33 and only one baddie has gotten through, a boss, and, even then, it was because I accidentally clicked "send next level" before the previous level was done.

Neat game, though.

Ditto. Got to level 43 with the massive maze of squirt towers only. Doesn't work too well after that however.

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#296590 - 06/04/2007 17:26 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: tman]
tman
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#296591 - 06/04/2007 17:48 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
Yeah, I finally caught on to that strategy. I've gotten to level 48. Right now I'm on 23 and hoping to finally beat this. I can't imagine getting very far on the higher levels, though.
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#296592 - 06/04/2007 18:03 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
First try I got through all 50 levels on easy. Only had 2 lives left, but somehow made it through. Upgrading your towers is a must though!
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#296593 - 06/04/2007 18:13 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Waterman981]
Dignan
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Loc: Sterling, VA
Which towers did you use? I can't seem to get past 49.

I'm starting by making a maze like Bitt said, using nothing but Pellet Towers. Then I upgrade and sell until I get to the following setup:



I have two pellet towers maxed out in the middle of the map, so they can reach anywhere. Then I have freeze towers second-to-last in every row. The last pellet tower in every row is the first to get upgraded, because I figure it'll be more often in range. Then towards the end I evenly place the swarm towers in the path of the flying creeps, which seems to take care of them. Then there's my last line of defense using some squirt towers.

What was your strategy?


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#296594 - 06/04/2007 19:08 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: tman]
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I started an "empeg" group in the high score list. I figured it would of already existed.
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#296595 - 06/04/2007 19:18 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
I wish I could say I did have a strategy! I was winging it the whole time. I did have some of the dart towers, but really it was dumb luck!
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#296596 - 06/04/2007 20:36 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
sein
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Registered: 07/01/2005
Posts: 893
Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa
Mine looked like this:



Died right there, so didn't really get past the Easy 50. The boss on 40 is having a laugh or what? Anyone manage to wipe him out? I think the Bash Towers I have on the ends of my rows are pretty weak, maybe I should have upgraded them further. Needed some more dart towers at the bottom of the map and a few more frost ones dotted about would also help I guess.

Wasn't too bad, could have done better if I actually had a plan instead of just making it up on the fly.


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#296597 - 06/04/2007 20:51 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: sein]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Okay, "Medium" is totally hard. Can't really set up a maze because you'll end up blocking the path.
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#296598 - 06/04/2007 23:36 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
AndrewT
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
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Okay, "Medium" is totally hard. Can't really set up a maze because you'll end up blocking the path.

I think it is a case of "simple when you know how", not that I've necessarily mastered this... they only come from the top and the left. Get some squirters trained to max damage in the congregation zones and you're all set.



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Edited by AndrewT (06/04/2007 23:36)

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#296599 - 07/04/2007 01:25 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: AndrewT]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
This one worked out pretty well. Plus, it's purty.



I'd hoped that the upgraded swarm towers would help with the flying bosses at the end. Not so much.


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#296600 - 07/04/2007 03:19 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
That one did work good! Before I was directing both directions to the same route/direction.
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#296601 - 07/04/2007 03:38 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
I've been playing this since early March. My best map on Medium before 1.2 was 5570 points with 7 guys left. Lately I've just been playing Spawns Fun Mode.

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#296602 - 07/04/2007 03:52 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: sein]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
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The boss on 40 is having a laugh or what? Anyone manage to wipe him out?

I was able to get him with that map I posted. Even then, he only died at the very end. Crazy!

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I think the Bash Towers I have on the ends of my rows are pretty weak, maybe I should have upgraded them further.

I found the bash towers to be pretty useless. I guess they have to be maxed out to be effective... I just think that takes too long.

Oh well, this game gets me pretty frustrated, but I love it. I keep playing it Hopefully I'll be over it by Monday. I have a lot of work to do that didn't get done on Friday!
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#296603 - 07/04/2007 04:38 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
sein
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Registered: 07/01/2005
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Loc: Sector ZZ9pZa
Bitt, that is a masterpiece.
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#296604 - 07/04/2007 16:06 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: sein]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
Check out the map I used to beat the easy mode. I only used Pellet Towers. It's not like it was even close, either. I let one boss through early on, and then the bosses on 40, 48, and 49 (I was really close to getting the boss on 40, like within 200 hit points).



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#296605 - 07/04/2007 20:28 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Yeah, those 5-point pellet guns really help. Incredible range.
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#296606 - 08/04/2007 04:46 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
That game just screams Warcraft III. There were lots of cools addons like that.

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#296607 - 08/04/2007 15:47 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
SonicSnoop
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Registered: 29/06/2002
Posts: 531
Loc: Triangle, VA
I think this has been my best attempt yet.. only the 2 last bosses got by.. the flying one wouldnt have if i had the 2 swarm bases upgraded a little more, he had less than 100 left.. the lvl 48 boss is just insane.. I did tho have him split in 2.. Only lvl 47 creeps and 48 boss made it to/past the S portion in the bottom middle of my map. My ending score was 3495.

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#296608 - 08/04/2007 16:21 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: SonicSnoop]
Dignan
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I modified my previous design and was able to get 3892 and 18 lives left. I didn't make a dent in the last flying boss, and I was able to split up the swarm boss, kill one of the splits, and nearly kill the other one. I basically used my last design, and this time focused on upgrading all the pelett towers in the flying creeps' path as much as possible. I ended up with about 6 sniper towers which did a whole lot of damage.

*edit*
Now I wish this were a standalone game. I hate having to go to the website to play it. I'd pay a little for it, too. I also wish I could cheat for fun. I'd love to see those last bosses get past a screen-full of maxed out towers


Edited by Dignan (08/04/2007 16:22)
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#296609 - 08/04/2007 16:22 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
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This one worked out pretty well. Plus, it's purty.



I'd hoped that the upgraded swarm towers would help with the flying bosses at the end. Not so much.

Bitt, how'd you make that neat map?
*edit*
Nevermind, I hadn't really played the medium difficulty yet.

Here's my map, basically a version of Bitt's brilliant one, using just pellet towers as I had before. The Swarm bosses at 48 got me.


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Edited by Dignan (08/04/2007 16:54)
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#296610 - 08/04/2007 20:09 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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2nd try, won on Easy with 2700 points (I did LOTS of selling, which hurts points) and 4 lives. Didn't make a dent in the last two bosses. Upgrading is the key, but timing it is hard. I used everyone else's concept of "beef up the core."

Man that game took a lot of time. Started at maybe 4:45, now it's 6:00.



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#296611 - 09/04/2007 06:15 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
spider
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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i love this game. thanks for sharing. its a gift and a curse. I have been playing NON stop since Friday. I just finally survived till the end on medium. Lately Master of Magic and virtualNES just havn't been cutting it.

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#296612 - 09/04/2007 13:42 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: FireFox31]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
I've now given up on easy. I think I'll stay satisfied with a 5491 points.

Medium is kicking my butt, though. I've been playing around with Bitt's maze, but I can't seem to get past ~45.

*edit*
I'm also looking into ways of cheating. Don't worry, they all involve preventing score uploads. I just want to have a little fun with these damn creeps that have been tormenting me so much for the past several days.

Oh, and if you want to play offline...


Edited by Dignan (09/04/2007 13:45)
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#296613 - 09/04/2007 22:53 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
OK, I've beaten both medium and hard. Very slick game. Attached is my solution to Medium. The upgrades on the pellet towers are simply a mad dash to try and kill the split blobs of Span Boss 48. I've found that the trick to the last boss levels is then the spawn bosses enter, send the flying bosses at the same time. The fliers so fast they are past the spawns before I even get a shot off at the spawns. Once they're dead, everything is killing the spawns. Until the 80 regulars come in at the end.



Dammit... How do image tags work again?

Edit: You have to click the attachment link and copy the actual file location.
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Edited by l0ser (10/04/2007 01:22)

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#296614 - 10/04/2007 02:32 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: lectric]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
Well that makes sense. Thanks

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#296615 - 10/04/2007 18:06 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14494
Loc: Canada
This thing is friggin' ridiculous! I picked it up yesterday, and was immediately hooked! Managed to avoid it all day today, though. Until just now -- had another go at "Normal" mode and managed to "win" with 17 lives remaining and 5277 points. No screenshot of the formation, though, cuz I was playing offline, and it locked up when I entered my name at the end.

The formation I used was very simple.. just a few diagonal zig-zags -- maybe 30% of the screen -- with two solid diagonals of level-5 squirters in the mddle.

Damn this is addictive!


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#296616 - 10/04/2007 19:02 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14494
Loc: Canada
Ahh.. I managed to survive on "Medium" again -- 18 lives left this time. The two final flying whatevertheyares were the only enemies to make it through.

Nothing but ordinary pellet towers, and the center filled with Typhoon squirters.
One improvement in my play is to beef up only the centermost pieces to the max before bothering with any other upgrades. One well-placed heavy is worth a zillion lower-lifes.

I guess I'll have to learn the other types of pieces to figure out how to stop those two final fliers.


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Edited by mlord (10/04/2007 19:05)

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