#300290 - 26/07/2007 03:35
Re: My iPhone review
[Re: FireFox31]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
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Loc: Manteca, California
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Cell phone cameras are worthless. But they sure are nice as instantly accessible VIDEO cameras. I've got the "VCR blinking 88:88" fear preventing me from learning how to use my DV cam. So, I just grab the Treo, shoot a video, and sync it to my computer!
I don't doubt the value of them. It's just that for me, a cell phone w/camera, means not having a cell during my work day.
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#300292 - 26/07/2007 11:06
Re: My iPhone review
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Nope, Verizon. Strangely enough I have not heard anything from them about any pending shutoff of Analog service, although I'm sure it's only a matter of time.
-Zeke
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#300293 - 26/07/2007 11:43
Re: My iPhone review
[Re: gbeer]
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Registered: 25/04/2000
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Loc: Arizona
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There are about 6000+ of em at my job site. edit: Workers than can't carry camera phones on the job.
My site has 4,500+ people (as of 30 JUN), but my company has (stateside) over 132,000. There are another ~25,000 listed as 'other locations', but that includes international. I'm not sure if they have the same no camera rules at international sites.
That is one company, add to that the other companies in my industry (the other big two (financially) had a combined 260k+ at the end of last year) and the multitude of military and subcontractors that can't have cameras at work, and the number is not insignificant.
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#300294 - 26/07/2007 12:30
Re: My iPhone review
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Just some of the features crammed into that phone that I don't want, and don't want to have to deal with in a complex menu structure:
If all you ever want to do is make phone calls, why would you ever even enter the menu?
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I probably use my cell phone five or six times a year
Assuming that's not an exaggeration, let's compare costs. Assuming each call is five minutes long, my plan could charge as little as $0 for the phone and $20 every three months for the minimum service. So $80 per year with, worst case, almost 300 minutes left over* that never expire. Jitterbug would charge you $147 for the phone, a $35 "set-up fee", $10 per month for service (plus an additional $3 per month if you want voicemail), and $0.35 per minute. That is $310.75 to $346.75 for the first year and $128.75 to $164.75 for each additional year. That doesn't count "surcharges, government taxes and assessments". Jitterbug passes those costs directly to you whereas my plan includes them. That is, I pay for minutes and that's it. Well, I do pay sales tax. From my standpoint, it looks like Jitterbug provides less service for twice the money.
In addition, when you order your Jitterbug phone, they'll program five numbers into it for you. If you want more numbers, you have to get an operator to do it for you. And, apparently, that service is not available everywhere. Which, I guess, means that if you're outside the service area, you cannot change your phone's contacts.
I totally understand the desire to simplify. It's just that I think Jitterbug's plan sucks, and I don't think it's simpler.
Oh, and let's not forget this probable deal killer:
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Alaska coverage still pending
* My plan keeps track of money in my account, not minutes. I get charged $0.25 per minute for the first ten minutes a day and $0.10 for each minute after that. Assuming each five minute phone call is on a different day, each minute paid for is $0.25. That's a total of $6.25 removed from a total of $80 put in over the year, leaving $73.75, which, again, assuming the worst case of $0.25 for each minute, is 295 minutes. The best possible case would be if all the minutes were used on the same day. That would be $0.25 for the first ten minutes, or $2.50, which would leave 775 minutes at $0.10 a minute. Of course, that means you'd be talking over 13 hours that day.
Edited by wfaulk (26/07/2007 13:06)
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#300295 - 26/07/2007 23:58
Re: My iPhone review
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Registered: 19/05/1999
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The iPhone will take FW power. 8-30V like all other iPods with the dock connector. You'd need to find an old FW-30 pin dock cable though, they are a little thin on the ground these days....
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#300296 - 28/07/2007 01:08
Re: My iPhone review
[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
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Loc: Manteca, California
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You guys should look at Tracfone.
Phones as low as $9.99, a year's service with 400 minuets to start $99.99.
All minuets include long distance charges. Add more minuets when needed. Unused minuets roll over when additional service time is purchased. All purchases of minuets include additional service time.
The only real drawbacks are that they don't have the really cool phones, not an issue for me, and that, failure to keep the service time up results in instant cancellation of service, loss of unused credits, loss of phone number. They do have a safety plan that will keep your service active if your prepaid airtime lapses, but it's cheaper to buy in advance.
For low usage callers, it's not the per minuet cost you should count, it's the cost per year.
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#300297 - 28/07/2007 02:10
Re: My iPhone review
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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I looked at Tracfone. I could swear that they used to expire your minutes. It looks like they don't do that now, if they ever did. However, they do charge double for roaming minutes.
Actually, doing some research, a lot of reviews claim that Virgin Mobile's minutes expire, which is 100% untrue (well, unless you let your whole phone number expire), so it's possible I got that expiration information on Tracfone from a similar bogus review.
Edited by wfaulk (28/07/2007 02:12)
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#300298 - 20/09/2007 20:00
Re: My iPhone review
[Re: gbeer]
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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is there a way to change the font size on the iphone version of safari?
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#300299 - 21/09/2007 15:04
Re: My iPhone review
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Registered: 23/08/2000
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Loc: SLC, UT, USA
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Not explicitly, but you can just zoom in as much as you want until you can read it.
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#300300 - 21/09/2007 15:11
Re: My iPhone review
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Registered: 23/08/2000
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And just to bring this topic back up...
The hacking and 3rd party scene for this thing has been amazing. New apps almost every day and some have a high degree of polish. The eBook reader is quite good, and they even have Frotz going strong. Voicenotes, mobileChat ichat clone, and lots of games. Good stuff.
Any of you non-US folks picked one up and unlocked it yet?
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#300301 - 21/09/2007 15:23
Re: My iPhone review
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Registered: 30/10/2000
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Where's the best place to learn about the 3rd party software? When I was first looking around, I didn't see too many interesting things.
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#300302 - 21/09/2007 17:27
Re: My iPhone review
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Registered: 08/05/2000
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
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(snip) Any of you non-US folks picked one up and unlocked it yet?
I had a bunch of NZ friends in town last week ( http://www.segwaytoday.net/SegwayToday/E...acks_5_-_0.html ) and they have been unlocking iPhones like mad with the free hacks.
BTW, installing this http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/ is a piece of cake, and well worth the effort... I didn't need a carrier hack, just wanted the additional apps - this did the trick nicely.
- Jon
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#300303 - 21/09/2007 18:11
Re: My iPhone review
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Registered: 30/10/2000
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
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BTW, installing this http://iphone.nullriver.com/beta/ is a piece of cake...
It sure was! Thanks.
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#300304 - 22/09/2007 00:48
Re: My iPhone review
[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
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Loc: Manteca, California
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I looked at Tracfone. I could swear that they used to expire your minutes. It looks like they don't do that now, if they ever did. However, they do charge double for roaming minutes.
Actually, doing some research, a lot of reviews claim that Virgin Mobile's minutes expire, which is 100% untrue (well, unless you let your whole phone number expire), so it's possible I got that expiration information on Tracfone from a similar bogus review.
Roaming 2 for 1 only applies for certain models of phones. Even if I had to pay that, I'd still stay with Tracfone. When I factor in the per month costs into the number of minuets I normally use, even paying 2 for 1, I come out with a lower annual cost.
By comparison ATT was costing me over $450/yr just to keep it active. Tracfone is only $99 and I don't have a monthly bill to keep up.
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#300305 - 24/09/2007 14:51
Re: My iPhone review
[Re: gbeer]
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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For the email application on the iPhone (specifically with Yahoo email), will a preview of the email (sender & subject) show up on the iphone when you receive it or will it show up as just another number on the email icon?
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#300306 - 24/09/2007 15:55
Re: My iPhone review
[Re: burdell1]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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The email program shows Sender, subject, and the first two lines of text as a preview. 5 previews fit on the screen at once.
I am using my iPhone with my gmail account, but I would assume yahoo looks the exact same way.
EDIT: Nevermind, I think you're talking about push email with a yahoo account. I don't have that so I obviously don't know.
Edited by robricc (24/09/2007 15:57)
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#300307 - 26/09/2007 13:48
Re: My iPhone review
[Re: robricc]
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Registered: 14/01/2002
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Loc: Minnetonka, MN
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Has anyone came up with an app that will sync tasks from Outlook to the iPhone? i don't own an iphone, but was thinking about buying one next year as a replacement for my ipaq.
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