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#300380 - 23/11/2007 19:12 Re: new Empeg? [Re: rubennyc]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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So, how are you liking it?

Wish I could tell you. Backordered at Amazon until later this month.


Uh oh. With Cornice out of business, I wonder where they're getting their 12 GB drives. If the answer is, nobody, you're 12 GB HDD vibez may turn into an 8 GB flash vibez.

^ This is pure conjecture, of course.


Obviously the flash would be nice (and in the same size as that drive you could get 32GB nowadays I suspect), but Hitachi make identical drives to the ones Cornice did - in fact, Cornice licensed the form factor & connector from Hitachi - so Trekstor could just use Hitachi drives instead.

ISTR Hitachi were at 8GB and were going to jump up again, but that's old info (more than a year) so maybe 1" drives have now been eaten by flash capacities... it's all very well being able to pack a motor, heads, etc into a 1" drive, but when you're comparing actual disk real estate to the "support mechanics" of a drive, you can see that 1" technology is going to fall victim to flash first... then 1.8", then 2.5" etc.

Hugo

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#300381 - 23/11/2007 20:25 Re: new Empeg? [Re: rubennyc]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4172
Loc: Cambridge, England
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Looks like my question has been answered on a certain other board. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't thank me, I had nothing to do with it. I don't know for certain, but I suspect that the new Riovolution member "Defector" would be a better point-of-contact for either praise or complaints...

Peter

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#300382 - 23/11/2007 22:32 Re: new Empeg? [Re: peter]
rubennyc
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Registered: 27/01/2006
Posts: 142
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Looks like my question has been answered on a certain other board. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!

Don't thank me, I had nothing to do with it. I don't know for certain, but I suspect that the new Riovolution member "Defector" would be a better point-of-contact for either praise or complaints...

Peter


Well, I'm going to thank you anyway for helping to keep the code alive post-Rio/DNNA.

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#300383 - 03/12/2007 21:06 Re: The Trekstor Parrot [Re: rubennyc]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
OK, so held a poor lad out here - where is 1.11 Beta?
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#300384 - 03/12/2007 21:24 Re: The Trekstor Parrot [Re: schofiel]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Shaddap, Rob.....
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#300385 - 04/12/2007 11:38 Re: The Trekstor Parrot [Re: schofiel]
rubennyc
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Registered: 27/01/2006
Posts: 142
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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OK, so held a poor lad out here - where is 1.11 Beta?


http://www.trekstor-uk.co.uk/beta/update-vibez-beta-v1.11.htm

Post any bugs & feedback in this thread on Riovolution -> http://www.riovolution.org/thread/794

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#300386 - 05/12/2007 02:25 Re: The Trekstor Parrot [Re: rubennyc]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
Amazon's tendency to offer "you might also like..." makes me nervous from a Big Brother perspective, so I don't order much from them. It was about the only place I found the Vibez, though.

On the upside, their RMA process was the easiest and slickest I have ever seen. I got so excited I pre-emptively bought another Vibez with 2-day shipping via "XXX'. You'll like this. I ordered on the 28th:


12/4/2007 5:34 pm Scheduled for delivery Seattle, WA
12/4/2007 6:17 am With delivery courier. Seattle, WA
12/3/2007 8:57 am With delivery courier. Seattle, WA
12/3/2007 8:46 am Arrived at XXX facility. Seattle, WA
12/1/2007 1:43 am Depart Facility Chehalis Regional Hub, WA
11/30/2007 6:56 pm In transit. Bellevue, WA
11/30/2007 5:57 pm Depart Facility Bellevue, WA
11/30/2007 9:01 am Shipment arrived at incorrect facility. Sent to correct destination. Bellevue, WA
11/30/2007 6:40 am Arrived at XXX facility. Bellevue, WA
11/29/2007 3:34 pm Depart Facility Wilmington - Clinton Field, OH
11/29/2007 10:06 am Processed at XXX Location. Wilmington - Clinton Field, OH
11/28/2007 4:59 pm Picked Up by XXX.


So, picked up on 28th and leaves Ohio on the 29th and at 7AM on the 30th it is within 10 miles of my house (Bellevue).

But that's no good. We gotta put it on a truck and send it 100 miles south to Chehalis!

And of course then we have to flood Interstate 5 between Chehalis and Seattle to totally screw things up.

Given the hardships many other people are suffering this week as their cars disappear into sinkholes and their homes slide down hillsides, I am hardly concerned about this trifle, but I find the system's decision to send it 90 miles farther away quite amusing.
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#304988 - 11/12/2007 02:04 Re: The Trekstor Parrot [Re: jimhogan]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
Well the RMA Trekstor got here (and another one I decided to snag). I also decided to get an FM tuner module. The FM module is either just as bad as many people have said or it is better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. You decide.

I have both Vibez hooked up to my Fedora MPS Cray emulator and I am copying 10 384k ultra VBR OGG copies of _Night on Bald Mountain_ back and forth between them to stress test the itty-bitty hard drives. If they survive until next Sunday then I face the more serious issue of deciding what playlist tools to use to organize music on these. I have been fooling with Amarok. Not sure if it will work.
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#305109 - 13/12/2007 00:29 Re: The Trekstor Parrot [Re: jimhogan]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Hmmm, those itty bitty hard drives are not specced for continuous operation, so I can believe that stressing them seriously could cause failures.

The typical use profile (after syncing) usually doesn't entail running for long periods of time.

Hugo

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#305127 - 14/12/2007 00:42 Re: The Trekstor Parrot [Re: altman]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
 Originally Posted By: altman
Hmmm, those itty bitty hard drives are not specced for continuous operation, so I can believe that stressing them seriously could cause failures.

The typical use profile (after syncing) usually doesn't entail running for long periods of time.

Hugo

Notorious purveyor of bullshit that I am, I figured you knew that I don't have an emulated Cray or 384 MP3s (would that even be in the spec?), so I haven't really been abusing the new (My Precious!) Vibez. I am interested to know what kind of duty they *can* support, though. The previous Vibez shucked off its mortal coil sometime during the effort to transfer about 5GB of music.
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#305132 - 14/12/2007 04:45 Re: The Trekstor Parrot [Re: jimhogan]
altman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
 Originally Posted By: jimhogan
 Originally Posted By: altman
Hmmm, those itty bitty hard drives are not specced for continuous operation, so I can believe that stressing them seriously could cause failures.

The typical use profile (after syncing) usually doesn't entail running for long periods of time.

Hugo

Notorious purveyor of bullshit that I am, I figured you knew that I don't have an emulated Cray or 384 MP3s (would that even be in the spec?), so I haven't really been abusing the new (My Precious!) Vibez. I am interested to know what kind of duty they *can* support, though. The previous Vibez shucked off its mortal coil sometime during the effort to transfer about 5GB of music.


Mmm that was definitely a bit quick. I guess a lot depends on temperature, etc, but I suspect that more than a couple of hours continuous operation would be pushing it. ISTR the assumed duty cycle was written somewhere in the datasheet, but that was rather a long time ago and I don't remember.

My vibez is still working fine, apart from the awful wheel thing they covered the sensible wheel control with. If you want to see the actual wheel that was going to be on the Rio 1.8" players, take a look at the Sansa Connect - that's the exact rio wheel, same moulds and everything. Ok, we had some LEDs added round the side to light up the play/pause, skip track, etc icons, but it's the wheel. What might have been, etc... it's a pretty good control in that form.

Hugo

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#305144 - 14/12/2007 15:59 vibez v1.13 [Re: altman]
rubennyc
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Registered: 27/01/2006
Posts: 142
Loc: New Jersey, USA


Edited by rubennyc (14/12/2007 15:59)

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