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#30542 - 03/05/2001 09:15 Interesting. What do you think?
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but...
Check this out

ClemsonJeep, isn't this basically the exact same thing your company was doing, only for other purposes? I still find it pretty interesting.

I still wish your company had finally released a working piece of software that could automatically fill out the tags of all my MP3's, but I guess it never got to that. Oh well.

DiGNAN
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#30543 - 03/05/2001 10:19 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: Dignan]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Relatable has been working in freeamp for a few months now. It looks up and tries to tag all your music. The database can be searched and stats are kept at http://www.musicbrainz.org. It seems like a neat system, too bad its being put to use in this way.

Sean

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Edited by Terminator on 03/05/01 06:21 PM.


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#30544 - 03/05/2001 12:08 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: Dignan]
ClemsonJeep
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Registered: 09/11/1999
Posts: 398
Loc: Ashburn, VA
ClemsonJeep, isn't this basically the exact same thing your company was doing, only for other purposes? I still find it pretty interesting.

... an excerpt from a mail I sent to our ex-company mailing list at eTantrum when I saw that napster was buying Relatable (who was 20 minutes down the road from us and our biggest competitor):

From: Rob J [[email protected]]
To: eTantrum Employees
Subject: hahaha...

Nice article...

Substitute "eTantrum" for "Relatable" and "songprint" for "TRM" and you
basically have the same story... Funny funny.

Talk about bad timing for existance on our part..

Rob

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Oh well. :) That's how the cookie crumbles. What's personally amusing to me is that our company was VERY much in contact with Napster a year ago. (Sean Parker even hosted a "Northern VA Napster Rave/BBQ" in our warehouse at the end of last summer).

/me thinks about possibilities of opensourcing the entire project.....hmm.......

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#30545 - 03/05/2001 17:11 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: Dignan]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
The bit about Napster is silly. A quick zipping or other packing and you've end-arounded this. It's far more interesting as a quick & accurate way of fixing/generating tags for the music one has already. Heck I'd pay for that. Besides with all the other 'Napigator' / OpeNap (et. al.) Napster itself is increasingly moot.

It is Very Cool though.

-Zeke

just say you weren't paying much attention...
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#30546 - 03/05/2001 22:30 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: Ezekiel]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
Yes, I thought the same thing when I was reading it. The author seems to think that the end of Napster is the end of file-sharing. For some part this is true. For example I don't think some 14 year-old girl using her dad's computer to download Backstreet Boys over a 56K modem is going to switch to a gnutella client. This is only an extreme example, but you know how computer-phobic the public can be. Some find Napster too threatening and overwhelming.

Ph well, only time can tell...

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#30547 - 04/05/2001 11:38 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: Dignan]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
gnutella is overwhelming for some of us tech guru's too:)
-m

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#30548 - 04/05/2001 12:25 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: dionysus]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
gnutella is overwhelming for some of us tech guru's too:)

Come on, how much simpler it can be ? I tried gnut on Linux and LimeWire on M$W. Both work well; the only thing is that out of more than 5k hosts, 2M files and 1PB* (1 million gigabytes) searched, I found exactly one host having decent rip of a CD I lent, never got back and cannot find anywhere now, new or used (Stravinsky's Firebird Suite in Tomita's rendering), and that host is always busy

Cheers!

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green

* Hmm, 200 GB per host? Either LimeWire lies, or Gnutella fans have some serious resources...
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#30549 - 04/05/2001 16:45 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: bonzi]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
Pardon me, but Limewire isn't exactly hard to use. The whole thing is automated for you. With real gnutella clients you have to go out and find hosts and all that crap. Limewire does it all for you and brings it down to Napster level. Not that I'm complaining, I'm using that mainly now*.


*yes, I'm using a filesharing program. I don't want to get in an ethics debate. I don't even use it for songs, rather for music videos that I would have no other way of getting. so bite me ...just kidding

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#30550 - 22/10/2001 02:21 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: ClemsonJeep]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
/me thinks about possibilities of opensourcing the entire project.....hmm.......

Rob, are you involved or in contact with FreeTantrum project? What happened to their web site (freetantrum.org)? It was active a week or so ago... Also, the most recent version on Soundforge (otherwise pretty active) Freetantrum project is a year old...

Thanks


Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green
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#30551 - 22/10/2001 17:43 Re: Interesting. What do you think? [Re: Dignan]
morrisdl
enthusiast

Registered: 21/08/2000
Posts: 346
Loc: Rochester, NY USA
I use filesharing most of the time for getting clean rips of scratched CDs I own. I would think this would be legal. but the RIAA would probably differ.

-Doug
Mk2-12G Blue (Now A/R Green)
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