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#318338 - 21/01/2009 05:15 Bay Area- Computer History Museum
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
Earlier this month I had an opportunity to tour The Computer History Museum in Mountain View.

For the next couple of months they have a wonderful exhibit on display- Charles Babbage's Difference Engine Number 2.
The story behind the machine is fascinating!
* Conceived long before machine calculation became standard
* Designed to be robust and exact
* Never built(!) until the original blueprints were donated to the London Science Museum not even two decades ago
* This second copy is on it's way to its Seattle owner.

My time at the museum was brief, however, and I'm interested in another visit.
Admission is free and the tours are very well done.

Anyone up for it?
Suggested dates?
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#318340 - 21/01/2009 10:50 Re: Bay Area- Computer History Museum [Re: Robotic]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
The Difference Engine was there when I visited, last autumn... I don't know when I'll next be in California, but I just wanted to confirm, to anyone maybe thinking about going, that seeing it in operation was completely awesome. It felt like being an ape at the foot of the monolith in "2001".

(And when someone asked the operators how the eight coefficients of the polynomial to evaluate were themselves determined, the answer was "Not sure... probably they just found the first eight terms of the Taylor expansion" and everybody nodded sagely. That was when I knew I was amongst real geeks.)

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#318341 - 21/01/2009 15:41 Re: Bay Area- Computer History Museum [Re: Robotic]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Originally Posted By: Robotic

* This second copy is on it's way to its Seattle owner.


Gee, I wonder who that could be.
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#318343 - 21/01/2009 15:55 Re: Bay Area- Computer History Museum [Re: Robotic]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Quote:
Anyone up for it?
Suggested dates?


The museum is located less than two miles by bicycle trail from where I am living. I saw it two days ago when I bicycled past it on my way to the Honda dealer in Palo Alto. (An eight mile (each way) ride to get the two license plate attachment bolts they neglected to provide with the new car. Sure, I could have gone down the block to the hardware store, but "...where's the fun in that?")

If anybody goes to see it, I will be mortally offended if they don't stop by and say hello! smile

tanstaafl.



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#318344 - 21/01/2009 16:02 Re: Bay Area- Computer History Museum [Re: Robotic]
Cris
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Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
I've seen the one they have in London, amazing bit of kit and well worth a visit.

Unfortunately when I visited it wasn't running, but I was amazed how close we could get to it.

Cheers

Cris.

Edit - This reminded me that I read a very good book on the making of this machine. If you can find it well worth the read.


Edited by Cris (21/01/2009 16:06)

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#318346 - 21/01/2009 16:14 Re: Bay Area- Computer History Museum [Re: tfabris]
andym
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Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
Originally Posted By: tfabris
Originally Posted By: Robotic

* This second copy is on it's way to its Seattle owner.


Gee, I wonder who that could be.


Not who you think it is....
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#318363 - 21/01/2009 23:27 Re: Bay Area- Computer History Museum [Re: Cris]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
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Edit - This reminded me that I read a very good book on the making of this machine. If you can find it well worth the read.


Amazon has dozens of copies, used and new, starting at 16 cents plus $3.99 shipping. I bought a new one for $1.92 (plus shipping).

I visited the museum this afternoon, will go back tomorrow at 2 pm for the Babbage tour. Here's a photo I took of it. The workmanship in that machine is simply fantastic.

tanstaafl.


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#318365 - 22/01/2009 00:46 Re: Bay Area- Computer History Museum [Re: tanstaafl.]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
Originally Posted By: tanstaafl.
The workmanship in that machine is simply fantastic.

tanstaafl.
Even more fantastic- I heard that they introduced 'error' into the fabrication of the parts in order to replicate the standard of precision available at the time. Obviously, our new machines and materials are far better and more consistent than what was possible in the mid 1800's.
Even with the addition of random tolerance issues, the machine *still* works flawlessly.

That book should be a fun read!
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#318368 - 22/01/2009 01:17 Re: Bay Area- Computer History Museum [Re: Robotic]
gbeer
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Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
Actually, It was supposed to go together flawlessly. There were problems with fabrication.

It took a lot of tinkering to get everything meshing properly.

Edit: the mention of "Victorian Requirements" is more of a nod to the exacting requirements for it to be beautifully made, in addition to being functional.


Edited by gbeer (22/01/2009 01:23)
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