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#41401 - 11/10/2001 20:55 No Serial Number
AggieEmpeg
new poster

Registered: 11/10/2001
Posts: 13
Loc: Texas
I am a brand spanking new empeg owner. I decided to buy one ever after reading the EOL messages. This thing just really impressed me.
I did find it odd though that there is no serial number on the back of my Mark2 (RioCar). The box is just empty. The only
number that I found that might be the number was 90260227. I found this on my invoice. Is there any way to confirm that this is indeed my serial number?

Thanks.



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#41402 - 11/10/2001 21:12 Re: No Serial Number [Re: AggieEmpeg]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
mine just has a sticker on the bottom 010101280

32Gig MK2 In 2001 VW Golf TDI
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#41403 - 11/10/2001 21:15 Re: No Serial Number [Re: AggieEmpeg]
borislav
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
The only number that I found that might be the number was 90260227. I found this on my invoice. Is there any way to confirm that this is indeed my serial number?

No, that doesn't look like a valid serial number, unless they've changed the scheme. Try going to the About menu on the player (it's an item in the main menu), then let it scroll down a bit - the serial number should be in there.

If you find it, please consider posting it here. It encodes the month and year when your player was manufactured plus a 'sequence number' - 1 for the first player, 2 for the second, and so on. We used to be able to tell from that number how many players were sold to date. Now this is no longer possible since there are multiple distribution channels but it still might give us some idea.

Borislav



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#41404 - 11/10/2001 21:20 Re: No Serial Number [Re: borislav]
AggieEmpeg
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Registered: 11/10/2001
Posts: 13
Loc: Texas
Ok. Found it on the About screen and confirmed that the sticker on the bottom, or at least one of them, is the serial number. I am the proud owner of #40104260. Thanks for the
help guys... although I still find it strange that it wasn't printed next to where it actually says "Serial Number"

Thanks again.


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#41405 - 11/10/2001 21:43 Re: No Serial Number [Re: AggieEmpeg]
borislav
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
I am the proud owner of #40104260.

Interesting. If I read this correctly, it says "manufactured in April 2001, player #4260". Depending on how you read an earlier post by Rob, there are either about 3000 or about 4000 empegs/Rios total.

Maybe the whole EOL announcement was just a marketing trick to get these babies to sell like hot bread while they continue to manufacture them as fast as they can? I wish.

Borislav


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#41406 - 11/10/2001 22:01 Re: No Serial Number [Re: borislav]
grgcombs
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Registered: 03/07/2001
Posts: 663
Loc: Dallas, TX
Mine was in march of '01 ... #2603 ... they must have been busting them out at that time to get a couple thousand out in a month.

g

RioCar (40Gig) Blue/Red/Green
'01 Audi A4 2.8 Quattro
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#41407 - 12/10/2001 00:13 Re: No Serial Number [Re: grgcombs]
borislav
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Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Mine was in march of '01 ... #2603 ... they must have been busting them out at that time to get a couple thousand out in a month.

My interpretation might be off then.

Or maybe not - I found the post by Hugo that defined it.

Borislav


Edited by borislav on 12/10/01 08:21 AM.


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#41408 - 12/10/2001 06:20 Re: No Serial Number [Re: borislav]
trevorp
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Registered: 08/06/2000
Posts: 144
Loc: Ft Lauderdale, FL
You can always verify your serial # with Frank's Displayserver too. It is on the System Information screen.

-Trevor

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#41409 - 12/10/2001 21:03 Re: No Serial Number [Re: borislav]
jwickis
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
Mine, like it's owner, doesn't play by the rules it's #090000695 the date is right (Sept. 2000) but I have a Mk2 looks like it would have a 2 in there somewhere. The serial number was on a sticker on the back near the jacks below a barcode.
I always thought the player just got the number from the owner when Emplode was installed, you have to type it in at the beginning of the install.
BTW-On the players 'about' menu what is the seemingly cryptic MAC 00:12:00:d7:12:02:b7?

#695-Mk2/8 colors-12Gig w/Tuner- awaits v2.x & Voice Recog.

Edited by jwickis on 13/10/01 05:22 AM.


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#41410 - 12/10/2001 22:50 Re: No Serial Number [Re: jwickis]
AggieEmpeg
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Registered: 11/10/2001
Posts: 13
Loc: Texas
The MAC address is the physical, hardcoded, address of the network adapter. Every network adapter has its own unique MAC. It is basically used to communicate with other network adapters at the physical hardware layer whereas IP addresses, which are associated with the MAC addresses, are used at a different layer of network communication... Protocol layer I think.


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#41411 - 12/10/2001 22:50 Re: No Serial Number [Re: jwickis]
JaBZ
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Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
BTW-On the players 'about' menu what is the seemingly cryptic MAC 00:12:00:d7:12:02:b7?

That cryptic number is the network interfaces unique MAC (Media Access Control) address, all manufacturers of NIC's have to encode this into thier products. This MAC address, (a hardware address) uniquely identifies each node of a network, the MAC layer (OSI reference model) interfaces directly with the network media, thus all network devices require different MAC address.


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#41412 - 15/10/2001 01:18 Re: No Serial Number [Re: AggieEmpeg]
jane
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Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
Just to get the details correct...
Layer 1 Physical layer is your cable and the electricity and modulation and stuff
Layer 2 Link layer is Ethernet, which has the MAC addresses
Layer 3 Network layer is IP, which has IP addresses
Layer 4 Transport layer (Internet layer) is TCP, which has TCP ports
Layer 7 is for instance HTTP, which has URLs.
(Layers 5 and 6 are usually contained in layer 7)

Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)


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#41413 - 15/10/2001 13:30 Re: No Serial Number [Re: jane]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Commonly known as the "Seven Layer Burrito (tm)" theory of networking (assuming your country of residence is foolish enough to tolerate Taco Bell).

-Mike

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#41414 - 15/10/2001 17:19 Re: No Serial Number [Re: mcomb]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Mercy!!! I just finished taking a Cisco certification exam. "Please Do Not Throw Stale Pizza Away!"*

* For anyone unfamiliar with the 7 layer model, that translates to Physical, DataLink, Network, Transport, Session, Presentation and Application layers, in that order.

Paul G.
SN# 090000587 (96GB Smoke)
SN# 030103046 (10GB Blue - Emergency Spare)
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#41415 - 15/10/2001 17:30 Re: No Serial Number [Re: pgrzelak]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Better explanation of the seven layer phenomena

-Mike

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#41416 - 15/10/2001 17:37 Re: No Serial Number [Re: mcomb]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

An excellent reminder! But, alas, this was Cisco certification, and we were forced to use stale pizza. Actually, depending on the age, stale pizza can be better than Taco Bell...

Paul G.
SN# 090000587 (96GB Smoke)
SN# 030103046 (10GB Blue - Emergency Spare)
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200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs

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#41417 - 16/10/2001 02:13 Re: No Serial Number [Re: mcomb]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
LOL! (Especially GSM remark)

Actually, TCP/IP suite maps very well to OSI model (and has, err, inspired it). True, particular protocols OSI proposed were virtually never used (I remeber that, once upon a time, ICL insisted on them). They were a bit better designed (because they could learn from TPC/IP ones), but were overly complicated and, well, as I said, nobody used them .

The model is still valid and usefull, though, and the life would generally be easier if a well defined set of protocols for session and presentation layers existed (as they to for the lower 4), in stead of every application inventing their own.

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green
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