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#45821 - 09/11/2001 11:02 Temptation
thinfourth2
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Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
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I have just read about a very nice toy from a wee company up here is scotland called Linn and they have produced a stereo systems that cost far to much (about £11,000) and it is hard drive based and the base model is 76gig and it takes up to 11 76gig drives

I think i shall stick to the empeg it is so much cheaper
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#45822 - 09/11/2001 11:36 Re: Temptation [Re: thinfourth2]
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
Linn is a very well known Hi-fi stereo company. They definitely cater to the "well-to-do" crowd. Hi-fi stereo is such an addiction...kinda like cars.
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#45823 - 09/11/2001 11:50 Re: Temptation [Re: thinfourth2]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
Who'll be the first to mount a RAID cabinet in the car?

Yes, you'll lose the benefit of 'all the music, all the time', but you'd have the empeg interface...
Wonder how well the software scales when you start to talk about a Terabyte or more of storage...

/Michael
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#45824 - 09/11/2001 16:33 Re: Temptation [Re: mtempsch]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
>Wonder how well the software scales when you start to talk about a Terabyte or more of storage

oo
I hate to think how long the database would take to rebuild with that much space.
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#45825 - 09/11/2001 20:39 Re: Temptation [Re: muzza]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
I hate to think how long the database would take to rebuild with that much space.

Well let's see... a terabyte would be about 17,000 hours of music, maybe 250,000 songs. If the scaling to the larger size is linear, based on how long it takes my empeg database to rebuild... not too bad, about an hour is all.

But let's not even think about how long the disk check after 20 synchs would take... (OK, I thought about it... about 10 hours?)

tanstaafl.
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#45826 - 10/11/2001 00:16 Re: Temptation [Re: tanstaafl.]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
If the situation ever arises (one can always hope) then I'd go to journalling filesystem, ext3 or reiser...

/Michael
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#45827 - 10/11/2001 11:18 Re: Temptation [Re: mtempsch]
n6mod
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Registered: 27/09/1999
Posts: 200
Loc: Berkeley, CA
Now that ext3 has gone mainstream (it's in Linus' kernel, says /.) I think it would be a good idea in the existing player. fsck already takes too long, and I worry that we'll all have to rebuild our disks to add more swap before long...
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#45828 - 12/11/2001 03:45 Re: Temptation [Re: n6mod]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Now that ext3 has gone mainstream (it's in Linus' kernel, says /.) I think it would be a good idea in the existing player.

But it's only in 2.4, right? There are several drivers (and some VM "issues") that'd need porting to 2.4 before it came up sensibly on a car player. It's something we'd like to do, especially now the 2.4 VM seems to have sorted its life out, but haven't got round to. (Never mind your Google or your IBM Data Explorer: try mmap'ing a 50Mb file for a protocol download of an Orb track, with 12Mb of RAM and no swap. Now *that's* VM pressure...)

I worry that we'll all have to rebuild our disks to add more swap before long

There is an entirely spare partition knocking about somewhere (though not a very big one). I was going to suggest swapping to a file, but of course that's somewhat unhelpful if the reason you need swap is to fsck the partition that the swapfile's on...

Peter

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#45829 - 12/11/2001 07:03 Re: Temptation [Re: peter]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
>Now that ext3 has gone mainstream
>But it's only in 2.4, right?

There are complete patchfiles for a 2.2 backport of ext3,
and several installations have been using it with 2.2 for over a year now.

I think I might try it on my player and see how it behaves. But that won't happen until December.. busy travelling 'till then.

-ml

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#45830 - 12/11/2001 07:18 Re: Temptation [Re: mlord]
peter
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Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
There are complete patchfiles for a 2.2 backport of ext3

Ooooh! Out of interest, (and well out-of-topic) does anyone know whether this patch also enables large (>2G) files on ia32 2.2 ext2?

Peter

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