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#60906 - 18/01/2002 18:07 10gig players availiable International + in USA.
JBCP
journeyman

Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 55
Loc: New Jersey
For a very limited time (until the units are added to our site) we are selling the EMPEG MK2 10gig units at $299 for message board users. We ship world wide.

The temporary order page is:

http://order.kagi.com/cgi-bin/r1.cgi?1HV2

The German (Deutsch) page is:

http://order.kagi.com/cgi-bin/r1.cgi?1HV2&&lang=de

Other languages soon. All players ship from New Jersey, USA with full one year warranty. Our main web site is www.carplayer.com and we have been selling car mp3 related devices since 1999. Empeg info is not currently on the main site.

Thanks to all,

Jeremy Briggs
www.carplayer.com
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#60907 - 18/01/2002 18:14 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
Nosferatu
enthusiast

Registered: 24/08/2001
Posts: 344
Loc: France, Champagne
I remember you as a Neo seller ....

Dont you make money on Empeg EOL ?
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#60908 - 18/01/2002 18:15 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
rtundo
addict

Registered: 27/02/2001
Posts: 569
Loc: Albany, NY
You might be smart to talk to Rob about investing in tuner production for the riocar. Many people here would like to have tuners for their riocars. If you invested in their production (with the empeg guys blessing) and sold them at a reasonable cost you might make many people here happy as well as a few bucks. Just a thought.....

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#60909 - 18/01/2002 21:25 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Just one more reason to hate New Jersey.
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#60910 - 18/01/2002 22:16 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: Nosferatu]
Chao
member

Registered: 01/01/2002
Posts: 144
Considering that he purchased several for resale after the recent markdown, he's making money either way.

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#60911 - 18/01/2002 22:57 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
xxxpcpxxx
new poster

Registered: 16/01/2002
Posts: 23
why would people pay 299 for a 10 gb player when they can still get a 20 gb player for the same price on rio's website? maybe when they run out of all the players, people would be more interested in this deal. hey just a thought.

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#60912 - 19/01/2002 01:27 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Ahh, so thats where all those car docks went...

I'd still like one for a home dock, but was hoping for a liquidation price on them as well... Hmm, decisions...

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#60913 - 19/01/2002 01:28 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: tonyc]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Beter them grab them then letting them trickle through eBay at $500. I find it pretty cool that they put the links here for BBS users.

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#60914 - 19/01/2002 01:34 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: xxxpcpxxx]
ninti
old hand

Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
Well, I tried to order a player from RIO two weeks ago when they were still listed in stock, they never shipped it and eventually canceled the order. They are so screwed up over there you will almost certainly have better luck with anybody else. For instance, they say they have 100 in stock, but it is still listed as out of stock. What the hell are they doing? Who knows.

I think I am going to go for this offer, and be grateful for it.


Edited by ninti (19/01/2002 01:34)
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#60915 - 19/01/2002 05:16 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: xxxpcpxxx]
JaBZ
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Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
Because they ship worldwide!!, the Estore doesn't!.

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#60916 - 19/01/2002 05:39 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JaBZ]
Nosferatu
enthusiast

Registered: 24/08/2001
Posts: 344
Loc: France, Champagne
As they sai on their site, Neo waas the better Mp3 car solution but as an ancient Neo user , it is not the Best.

Empeg is the best.

Yes they ship internationally but 100$ to pay a trip in airplane for your player no !!!

Players have been bought by people that are only interested in Rio, by the Money they can do on back of real Empeg fans.
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#60917 - 19/01/2002 08:40 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: Nosferatu]
JBCP
journeyman

Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 55
Loc: New Jersey
Actually, my units are not the MK2a as they sell in the US store, what I am doing has nothing to do with the fact that the eStore is out of stock of everything (they have ZERO), and also has no part in what is going on with e-bay. International shipping is a flat rate of $48 for UPS World Wide Express, I would encourage you to visit www.ups.com and get the ship quote for that from us to you, you will find it is more than $48.

Jeremy Briggs
www.carplayer.com
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#60918 - 19/01/2002 09:00 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
Yang
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 443
Loc: Raleigh, NC
Ahh.. so they have Zero now.. I wonder they announced they have 100 20GB models left..

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#60919 - 19/01/2002 09:54 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
Nosferatu
enthusiast

Registered: 24/08/2001
Posts: 344
Loc: France, Champagne
Ah yes but why are you seeling Riocar player only from now and not before cos you says you sold Mp3 devices for many years but it was only Neo stuff you sold ?

i you are the Mp3 devices lover you pretend, you should have been selling Empeg from the beginning or from longtime ago.

On your site I can only see Neo devices sold , but no RioReceiver, or HSX.

Price driop is opportunity for you to make money or you'll have sold rio products before even if international shiipping is 'only' 48$.
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#60920 - 19/01/2002 11:06 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: ninti]
xxxpcpxxx
new poster

Registered: 16/01/2002
Posts: 23
actually ninti, i ordered mine when they said on the website they it was out of stock and i got mine five days after i ordered it. i don't know what the hell happened with the first one you ordered but i am sure it was some kinda mix up. i would try again, call them, email or something. if you really want one, keep trying while they still have any.

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#60921 - 19/01/2002 11:26 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: xxxpcpxxx]
ninti
old hand

Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
Yeah, I know, some are getting them when they say they are out of stock, some are not getting them when they say in they are in stock. Sonic Blue has their head so far up their a** they don't know what the hell they are doing. My point is that you are taking your chances if you count on them, that is all. And calling them or e-mailing them is a lost cause, they never answer either. And when I was finally able to get a hold of them they bascially told me I was SOL. Hey, maybe you will get lucky, maybe you won't. As for me, I will never ever order from them again, and welcome the opportunity to buy from someone else at a tiny bit high but still reasonable price.

Sorry, I don't mean to beat a dead horse. They made me quite angry.
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#60922 - 19/01/2002 12:56 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
time
enthusiast

Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
If your units are not the Mark 2a's then where did you get them and what are they?!? As I recall, ALL Rio branded players are Mark 2a's. Some may be coming in Empeg boxes, but they should still be Mark 2a's.

So what are you selling?

Just Curious,
Tim

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#60923 - 19/01/2002 13:08 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: time]
JBCP
journeyman

Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 55
Loc: New Jersey
These players are Mark 2's and have nothing to do with the price drop from SonicBlue etc..etc..

As for why we did not sell them previously, EMPEG was not looking for resellers at the time we contacted them years ago. As for the RioHome, we only focus on car MP3 items, not home.

We do have limited quantities which is why I offered them here on this message board before the main site. You will notice 10gig players on ebay tend to go for more, and if you call sonic blue, you will find there are NO players left, any size.

Jeremy Briggs
www.carplayer.com
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#60924 - 19/01/2002 14:37 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
time
enthusiast

Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
Thanks for the clarification. My mistake. I was reading others posts that referred to your units as RioCar players. You were correct in you language all along. Sorry if I came off a bit accusatory...

Hope you move them quickly.

Best regards,
Tim

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#60925 - 19/01/2002 18:28 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
Terminator
old hand

Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
If you call sonic blue, your likely to get any number of answers. As far as I know, they are still shipping units despite what the web site (or customer service people) may say.

Best of luck with your sales!

Sean

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#60926 - 19/01/2002 21:32 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: Nosferatu]
JaBZ
addict

Registered: 08/08/2001
Posts: 452
Loc: NZ
hmm, I dont know what the hell your reading dude, you have confused yourself. If you read the post form the VERY begining again, you will notice that my REPLY was to "xxxpcpxxx's" post above.

I was implying that International people would pay $299 to get a player from his website, since the (RIO) ESTORE, DOES not ship internationaly.
Also he has a reasonable shipping price.



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#60927 - 20/01/2002 14:16 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
altman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Are you *sure* they aren't mk2a's? I believe they are. I can say this with a fair degree of authority as we hand-shipped all the empeg mk2s out of the UK office, basically.

In which case, they're rio players, rio branding, etc. Not a bad thing, the mk2a obviously had small improvements over the mk2.

Hugo

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#60928 - 20/01/2002 16:32 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Jeremy, you have done a bit of a disservice to the Neo community in the past and now you're coming to do the same for the empeg? Is that what we should be reading between the lines?

Before posting a forsale, perhaps you should actually get your units IN HAND and take a look at what they are.

Hugo (altman) has already stated that all MK2 units were hand-shipped from his site in the UK.

If your deal has nothing to do with the recent dump by SONICblue, then how could you have ever sourced them at a price below $299? And how were you able to get an OLDER revision of the product? Old Cartoys stock? (Did CT ever have MK2?)

Just be clear and honest. At least on this board it's the only way you're going to gain any acceptance. So when the units finally do make it up onto your own page, you'll be asking for MORE than $299 for the 10GB MK2 unit? And everyone else should know the differences between the MK2 and MK2a (check the FAQ), including an additional 4MB of memory in the newer units.

Bruno
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#60929 - 20/01/2002 18:41 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: hybrid8]
JBCP
journeyman

Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 55
Loc: New Jersey
We are selling EMPEG Mark 2's, Hugo is mistaken, and it is also stated on the order page that we will be shipping on Jan. 28th. It is not so uncommon to start taking pre-orders one week before delivery, much longer than that with some companies. I met Hugo and his partner out at CES, he simply does not remember, as for the units, they come directly from S3 and carry a one year warranty from the date we ship your unit to you.
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#60930 - 20/01/2002 19:35 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
Terminator
old hand

Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
So, what you are saying is that you are selling old units, with 4 MB less RAM, an old kenwood remote which has less functionality than the new one, and minus all the tweaks that went into the mk2a - for $100 more a pop?

Looks like the remote you posted on your site is wrong then. That remote did NOT ship with the mk2.


Edited by Terminator (20/01/2002 19:46)

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#60931 - 20/01/2002 20:19 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: Terminator]
JBCP
journeyman

Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 55
Loc: New Jersey
Thanks for pointing out the picture, it has been removed until I have the correct picture for the MK2, and yes, as I've said many times, these are MK2's, not MK2a's, sorry if I was not clear enough about that. Would you happen to have a picture of the correct remote I can post for the time being? If possible, e-mail it to me.
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#60932 - 20/01/2002 20:56 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
here ya go


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#60933 - 20/01/2002 23:12 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Hmm, direct from SB... Then it's more than likely these units were purchased for less than $199.

Just make sure that on your order page it's clear what is being sold MK2 with 12MB of RAM, etc etc... Looks like you're headed in the right direction by fixing the various graphics.

Bruno
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#60934 - 20/01/2002 23:38 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: JBCP]
time
enthusiast

Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
Jeremy,
Please understand that parts of your story just seems so implausible--I think more than one of us is having trouble comprehending where you're coming from. While I don't understand why your posts have evoked such hostility from some people, I must say this offer does come at a very odd time. The stock your offering is well over a year old.

Could you let us know the number of units you'll be receiving? There can't be that many old unsold empeg Mark 2's floating around. I would guess well less than a hundred.

Do you know which Sonicblue office they are coming from? US or UK?

Are these Refurb units?

Perhaps your responses will shed more light....

As a side note, S3 is no longer the corporate name. The company is doing business as Sonicblue.

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#60935 - 21/01/2002 02:05 Re: 10gig players availiable International + in USA. [Re: time]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yeah, I'm wondering why he's being cagey about the sourcing of the units. He's stated that they came from S3, but as far as I know, Empeg wasn't bought by SonicBlue until after they had already changed the name to SonicBlue. So why does he say they came from S3? And under what circumstances did they come from SonicBlue? And why are they Mk2s instead of Mk2a's?

I'd be really curious to know the circumstances under which these units were obtained. If it's all legit, then cool, just tell us and we'll be grateful that more units have suddenly become available.
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