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#79737 - 12/03/2002 00:29 SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
During the EOL feeding frenzy I over-bought. I have two packages that I would like to sell. All items are new and unused except for one tuner that I tried just to see it in action.

Hoping to take advantage of the level of interest in the SF Bay area I would like to limit this to a face-to-face transaction. Utah would work too as I live in Utah (Park City) and work in California (Redwood City). And given the level of interest in tuners I'll conduct this sale as a lottery to make it fair (If I get more than one offer). A really really good sob-story might get me to change my plans but offering to pay more will not.

So if you are interested in either package let me know. I'll choose the winner(s) in some random, public (DJIA at end of day?) way by the end of the day on Monday, March 18th.

No, I won't break up the packages (unless they don't sell).

Package #1
$400 - 30 gig blue screen
$ 70 - tuner module
$ 30 - extra AC brick
$ 30 - extra remote
$ 25 - the shipping I paid
$555 - TOTAL

Package #2
$300 - 20 gig blue screen
$ 70 - tuner module
$ 30 - extra AC brick
$ 30 - extra remote
$ 25 - the shipping I paid
$455 - TOTAL

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#79738 - 12/03/2002 08:54 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
darwin
enthusiast

Registered: 10/01/2002
Posts: 205
For some people, it might even be worth a $200 flight to meet with you so they can get that tuner. =)

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#79739 - 12/03/2002 09:40 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: darwin]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
In that case they should come to Utah. The Olympics are over and the snow is good.

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#79740 - 12/03/2002 09:46 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
I'm interested in one of the packages. I'd prefer #2 with the 20 gig, but if it came down to it i'd take the 30 over nothing. I live in SF.
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#79741 - 12/03/2002 11:18 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: loren]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
OK. Gad, how many do you have right now? I've got 4 but I'm trying to reduce it to 2

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#79742 - 12/03/2002 11:31 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
I've got 2 personally, and my girlfriend has 2 as well, one of which she is selling to a friend. I'm buying this one for a friend as well. =]

Oh yeah... and when you say you work in the Valley... do you commute that far or do you have your own plane or what?! That's quite the commute.
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#79743 - 12/03/2002 12:20 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
sancho
journeyman

Registered: 17/08/2000
Posts: 70
i'm interested in either package...

if you rethink your sf/utah stipulation
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sancho
sancho[at]teamrocs[dot]org
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#79744 - 12/03/2002 18:55 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: loren]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
After 4 years I should own one of Delta's planes but I just rent one seat at a time. Two things make the trip livable: I alternate weeks and I stay with my parents.

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#79745 - 13/03/2002 01:04 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
mail2mm
journeyman

Registered: 04/02/2002
Posts: 60
Loc: Wyoming and New Zealand
Well, I hope that I am in the right place at the right time this once. I do not commute as you do but spend lots of time in Palo Alto visting in laws (where I am now), Casper, Wyoming (my hometown) and Auckland, New Zealand where I now live. I have a Mk2a, without a tuner, that we use in our car and take into the house. I have been sitting on the fence about buying another unit to use in the house and in New Zealand. Your very fair offer brings me down off the fence.

Please put my marker in the hat/lottery for either unit. What fun it would be to have a radio and another Rio Car.

Michael

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#79746 - 13/03/2002 02:10 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: mail2mm]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
OK. Any preference between 20 & 30 gig?

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#79747 - 13/03/2002 02:50 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
justinlarsen
old hand

Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
sipon ill take the 20 gig package or put me in the lotto im in the northbay.. ill drive to sf or where ur at.. thanks
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#79748 - 13/03/2002 02:50 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
mail2mm
journeyman

Registered: 04/02/2002
Posts: 60
Loc: Wyoming and New Zealand
I have a slight preference for the 30 GB unit but either would be just fine.

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#79749 - 13/03/2002 13:33 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: justinlarsen]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
OK, if you win the lottery I may be able to deliver it. I owe my brother in Petaluma a visit.

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#79750 - 13/03/2002 13:44 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
STATUS & QUERY

So far I have 5 folks who would prefer the 20 gig unit and 1 the 30 gig.

QUESTION for those who would prefer the 20: although a few of you have said this already I suspect that any of you would take the 30 as a second choice. Please confirm.

Thanks, Sipho

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#79751 - 13/03/2002 15:16 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Correct. If i'm not chosen for the 20, i'll take the 30.
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#79752 - 13/03/2002 16:26 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
thrasher
enthusiast

Registered: 10/01/2002
Posts: 362
yes I will gladley purchase the 30. Can't wait.
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#79753 - 14/03/2002 19:37 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
oktane
new poster

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 12

Please put me down for either!

Thanks!

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#79754 - 15/03/2002 00:51 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: oktane]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
OK, you're in the pool. Where do you live?

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#79755 - 16/03/2002 00:15 Re: SF Bay or Utah ONLY: new 20 & 30G w/ tuners @ cost [Re: Sipho]
oktane
new poster

Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 12
Palo Alto, CA.

Thanks!

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#79756 - 18/03/2002 02:12 Status and drawing rules [Re: Sipho]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
I have heard from 9 people who are interested in my two empeg/RioCar units. In alphabetical order they are:

0 Jeremy
1 justinlarsen
2 loren
3 mail2mm
4 matthew_k
5 oktane
6 rearviewmirror
7 Thiemo
8 thrasher

If I dropped your name somehow let me know ASAP. Here is how the random drawing will work: the web site finance.yahoo.com lists the DJIA and the NASDAQ on the left edge. After the markets close today (Monday the 18th) I'll take the DJIA final for the day, drop the fractional part and calculate the remainder after dividing by 9 (mod 9). The resulting number between 0-8 says who gets first choice or the two units. I'll use the same calculation using the NASDAQ for the second choice.

Most people have said that they want the 20 gig unit. But if the second winner is the same as the first or doesn't want the remaining unit (most likely the 30 gig unit) then I'll offer it to the next person on the list (wrapping around from the bottom to the top if I have to).

For example here is how the two indices closed on Friday and the EXAMPLE winners:

10607.23 -> 10607 mod 9 = 5 (oktane)
1868.30 -> 1868 mod 9 = 5 (oktane again so we move to rearviewmirror)

All this foolishness is to keep the choosing random and transparent because people get weird on the 'net. If you see any holes in my plan let me know. If you win try and contact me before noon (PST) on Wednesday or I will offer the unit to the next non-winner on the list. If possible I would like to have the units in the hands of the winners before Friday morning when I fly back to Utah (except for Jeremy who lives in Utah).

Craig Payne
[email protected]
650-480-2696 Work


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#79757 - 18/03/2002 04:16 Re: Status and drawing rules [Re: Sipho]
smu
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
Hi.

I would just suggest that you use the following algo for the second winner:
Remove the first winner from the list, in your example, this would result in the following list:
0 Jeremy

1 justinlarsen
2 loren
3 mail2mm
4 matthew_k
5 rearviewmirror (original 5 -oktane- was removed)
6 Thiemo
7 thrasher
And use a modulo 8 calculation. You algo would prefer the one following to the first winner, doubling his chances (because he would win on either 5 or 6 on your example), while mine would keep equal chances among the first round loosers.
Just wanted to add a little stochastic knowledge in here.

cu,
sven
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proud owner of MkII 40GB & MkIIa 60GB both lit by God and HiJacked by Lord

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#79758 - 18/03/2002 08:45 Re: Status and drawing rules [Re: smu]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
Good point. I guess I will have to quit my job at the lottery

Do you read every post on the BBS?

Everybody: consider the rules modified as indicated

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#79759 - 18/03/2002 09:13 Re: Status and drawing rules [Re: Sipho]
smu
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
Nope, only every post in
  • For sale
  • Technical
  • Programming
  • Projects
Plus as much as I can of Wishlist and Bug Reports, ICE, General, Off Topic and Installation Notes (in that order). I used to read everything without exception a while back though.
But, I admit that Thiemo is a friend of mine, and it was me who pointed him at your sale, so I am interested in the outcome of this lottery (I hope he gets one of the units).

cu,
sven
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proud owner of MkII 40GB & MkIIa 60GB both lit by God and HiJacked by Lord

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#79760 - 18/03/2002 12:08 Re: Status and drawing rules [Re: Sipho]
sancho
journeyman

Registered: 17/08/2000
Posts: 70
i'm not on your list... but, i also don't meet the sf/utah requirement...
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sancho

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#79761 - 18/03/2002 15:27 >>> Winners <<< [Re: Sipho]
Sipho
member

Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 103
Loc: Utah & Silicon Valley
According to finance.yahoo.com the DJIA closed at 10576.37 and NASDAQ at 1877.06. So for the first winner we get:

10576.37 -> 10576 mod 9 = 1 (Justin Larsen) (prefered the 20 gig unit)

0 Jeremy
1 justinlarsen
2 loren
3 mail2mm
4 matthew_k
5 oktane
6 rearviewmirror
7 Thiemo
8 thrasher

Second place goes to:

1877.06 -> 1877 mod 8 = 5 (rearviewmirror) (gets the remaining 30 gig unit)

0 Jeremy
1 loren
2 mail2mm
3 matthew_k
4 oktane
5 rearviewmirror
6 Thiemo
7 thrasher

If you two can call me at 650-480-2696 we can arrange to meet.

-- Craig

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#79762 - 18/03/2002 16:05 Re: >>> Winners <<< [Re: Sipho]
justinlarsen
old hand

Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
WOOHOOO!
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---- Justin Larsen

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#79763 - 18/03/2002 16:14 Re: >>> Winners <<< [Re: justinlarsen]
rearviewmirror
journeyman

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 84
Loc: Bangalore, India
ditto!

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#79764 - 18/03/2002 16:15 Re: >>> Winners <<< [Re: Sipho]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Argh! I just went to Nasdaq.com and it says the DJIA closed at 10577.75 -> mod 9 = 2. I thought i'd won!!

I won't argue it... but is there an official close value somewhere?

[edit] etrade.com has the same, as does WSJ.com... =\
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#79765 - 18/03/2002 16:17 Re: >>> Winners <<< [Re: loren]
justinlarsen
old hand

Registered: 31/12/2001
Posts: 1109
Loc: Petaluma, CA
loren please argue.. if the values differnt.. im not going to take it from you
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---- Justin Larsen

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#79766 - 18/03/2002 16:20 Re: >>> Winners <<< [Re: justinlarsen]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Okay... http://www.nyse.com (which i would hope would have the official numbers) has the close at 10577.70. Sooo... I'll argue it. =]
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