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#86506 - 10/04/2002 13:18 Can't access RioCar.org from school
zaeno
stranger

Registered: 12/12/2001
Posts: 32
Loc: California
The riocar.org site has been blocked by N2H2 (bess) filtering system. This prevents most school computers in the US from accessing riocar.org....the stated reason for the site being blocked is that it contains pornography...does anyone know why the filter thinks this???...i miss getting info at school. :-/
error message:
The Site: http://www.riocar.org
is categorized by N2H2 as:
Pornography

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#86507 - 10/04/2002 13:23 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: zaeno]
djc
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Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
hmmmm... perhaps too much install pr0n?

--dan.

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#86508 - 10/04/2002 13:24 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: zaeno]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Maybe references to "Install Porn" ??
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#86509 - 10/04/2002 13:36 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: zaeno]
Anonymous
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Naked penguins?

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#86510 - 10/04/2002 13:39 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: djc]
Anonymous
Unregistered


What does pr0n mean? I'm guessing it means porn? Then why not just say porn? I've been trying to figure this one out for a while now.

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#86511 - 10/04/2002 13:42 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: ]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
You're the one using ha<ker/el1te speak in your username! I think that using an "0" instead of an "O" will prevent certain filters like this from falsely detecting p0rn (whether they be filters at work or child protection programs, etc).
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#86512 - 10/04/2002 13:52 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: zaeno]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I'm not sure on the filtering system, but most filter the URL and/or IP. You could try using the integer which would be http://3485924070/. However, since RioCar.org is a virtual host (something I didn't know prior) the server is not set to respond to the integer (or even IP address). This could probably be resolved easily on the server side.
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#86513 - 10/04/2002 15:22 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12318
Loc: Sterling, VA
I've wondered this too.

So yeah, I can see why p0rn instead of porn, but why pr0n?
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#86514 - 10/04/2002 15:36 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: Dignan]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
From the Jargon file:

pr0n: // [Usenet, IRC] Pornography. Originally this referred only to Internet porn but since then it has expanded to refer to just about anything. The term comes from the warez kiddies tendency to replace letters with numbers. At some point on IRC someone mistyped, swapped the middle two letters, and the name stuck, then propagated over into mainstream hacker usage.

-Trevor

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#86515 - 11/04/2002 11:08 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: zaeno]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Odd. I'm looking into N2H2's re-review process, as this definitly seems like a mistake.

The closest thing I can think of is the one picture in Hugo's gallery, but I doubt the reviewers really looked into every nook and cranny of the site.

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#86516 - 11/04/2002 11:10 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: drakino]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
You mean that picture of a fully-clothed person sitting in a car is considered pornography?

Oh wait, maybe it's some of those naked images of Tux in the boot logos section.
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#86517 - 11/04/2002 11:12 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: robricc]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
This could probably be resolved easily on the server side.

No, not really, I need to play nice with the other virtual hosts on the machine. Plus the logo part wouldn't work, as that still uses the empeg.miniinfo.net domain that is mapped to the same server, same IP. Plus, with an upcoming move of the box to a more reliable host soon, the IP will probably change. (Not sure if anyone noticed the bit of downtime yesterday afternoon, it wasn't server troubles).

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#86518 - 11/04/2002 12:05 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Anonymous
Unregistered


What exactly does my name say? YzEEd? I choose my user name by typing random numbers and letters.

Drakino,

This picture?

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#86519 - 11/04/2002 12:31 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: ]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
So what art director said "we need.... a potted plant!"?
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#86520 - 11/04/2002 13:03 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Anonymous
Unregistered


What?

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#86521 - 11/04/2002 13:07 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: ]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Look above her head.... a potted plant. So essential for any car shoot.
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#86522 - 11/04/2002 13:14 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
Anonymous
Unregistered


Oh yeah, of course. It makes the background look natural. Otherwise you'd think there was just a white sheet draped behind the car.

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#86523 - 11/04/2002 15:40 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: ]
Satan_X
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Registered: 22/03/2002
Posts: 251
Loc: Ramsey, NJ
Is it just me or does it look like the plant is about to 'dive bomb' her.....
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#86524 - 11/04/2002 23:54 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: Satan_X]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
It's a spy ninja attack plant.
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#86525 - 12/04/2002 03:45 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: ]
cyberco
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Registered: 29/01/2002
Posts: 109
Loc: United Kingdom
cute!!
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#86526 - 12/04/2002 05:25 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I don't think it was actually PLANNED for a Max Power model to sit in Hugo's NSX in the back yard of Cambridge Car Audio during an open day..

What she got up to with Hugo in the tool cupboard was even less planned.

Rob

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#86527 - 12/04/2002 06:33 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: rob]
SE_Sport_Driver
carpal tunnel

Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Those are the perks! Now that's he's a fellow, he probably gets ALL the action!

So the saying "I wouldn't kick her outta bed!" can also be used as, "I wouldn't kick her outta my car!"?
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#86528 - 12/04/2002 06:51 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: rob]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Oy! I was happily attached at the time! Tell the truth, the max power woman was a bit intimidating - rather huge heels. Not my type, but as others have pointed out - not someone you'd necessarily kick out of your bed/car/sofa

Hugo

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#86529 - 12/04/2002 09:44 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: altman]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
What's the matter Hugo; too tall for you ? :-p
-m
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#86530 - 12/04/2002 09:51 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: rob]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
"Nobody snuggles with Max Power! You strap yourself in and feel the cheese!!"

Never pass up the opportunity for a Simpsons quote, no matter how much of a stretch it is.
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#86531 - 12/04/2002 10:11 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: dionysus]
pca
old hand

Registered: 20/07/1999
Posts: 1102
Loc: UK
What's the matter Hugo; too tall for you ? :-p

Watch it! Don't make heightist jokes or he'll jump up and headbutt you in the nuts.

pca
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#86532 - 12/04/2002 10:15 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: pca]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
LOL!
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#86533 - 12/04/2002 11:17 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: pca]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Made my day, Patrick. Thanks

Hugo, I hope you understand that any height jokes we make are completely in good fun, and that we have the utmost respect and admiration for you.
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#86534 - 12/04/2002 11:29 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: pca]
eternalsun
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
Damnit, you made me laugh out loud in the middle of the day in the office. Doh!

Calvin

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#86535 - 12/04/2002 14:01 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: pca]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
Monitor cleaning time...

Note to self: don't drink by the computer while reading BBS...

/Michael
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#86536 - 12/04/2002 16:35 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: tfabris]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Yeah, right

I'm used to them now, anyway. Everytime patrick visits the office I'm reminded of the fact that I'm about the shorted person there!

Hugo

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#86537 - 12/04/2002 16:37 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: drakino]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
Sounds like the school I went to. It was a private Christian college that used N2H2/Bess and they had the filter cranked as high as it would go. It basically blocked every cool site on the internet except slashdot and google.
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#86538 - 12/04/2002 17:37 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: JBjorgen]
svferris
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Registered: 06/11/2001
Posts: 700
Loc: San Diego, CA, USA
I'm really surprised Slashdot got through, with all their trolls and goatse.cx posters.
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#86539 - 13/04/2002 17:45 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: svferris]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3582
Loc: Columbus, OH
Actually, sometimes the slashdot comments didn't get through...I only read the front page anyway.
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#86540 - 14/04/2002 22:18 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: JBjorgen]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
You know what it might be though? Alot of times, ISP's use the same IP addresses for porn sites and regular sites, and differentiate using virtual hosting..

i'm not sure how much control is over the riocar.org site, but maybe it's ISP also hosts porn sites on that same IP range?
-mark
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#86541 - 14/04/2002 23:41 Re: Can't access RioCar.org from school [Re: dionysus]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Not that I can see from a quick check of the hosts on that IP. I'll wait a week and see if the filter company responds, if not, I'll submit it for review again.

edit: A quick check of N2H2.com shows actually that they took it out of their database already. So, it should be open to the origional poster at school soon.


Edited by Drakino (14/04/2002 23:43)

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