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#89114 - 18/04/2002 13:40 Opinions on this PhatBox feature?
CurlyKicker
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Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 135
Loc: Orange County, CA
"PhatNoise's patent pending SSA interface is unlike any other interface available for the car. Using voice prompting, the PhatNoise Car Audio System reads album, artist, genre and playlist names to you while you drive....In addition to these great features there is a voice prompted help that is always available at the touch of a button. Then you can turn it off once you get the hang of the system."

Taken from here: http://www.phatnoise.com/products/systemoverview/headunit_interaction.php
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#89115 - 18/04/2002 14:29 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Patent Pending, huh?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

HMMMMMM.....
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#89116 - 18/04/2002 14:49 Blaupunkt's efforts [Re: CurlyKicker]
pdw
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Registered: 11/02/2002
Posts: 36
Speaking of inferior Empeg alternatives, I was interested to see Blaupunkt's latest effort:

https://secure.caraudiodirect.com/shop/acatalog/C_A_D_Catalogue_Blaupunkt_Blitz_23.html

1Gb MP3 changer "compact drive". It's interesting to see a big-name manufacturer finally moving in the right direction, even if they are still miles off...

I wonder how long it will be until they produce units that are even half as good as the Empeg? Perhaps one day... :-)

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#89117 - 18/04/2002 15:47 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Okay. I might be wrong here but is their revolutionary system just a voice synth? If so then "Hmmmmmmmmmmmm......." is right...

Probably would get the patent granted though... I like the recent one that was on slashdot about a patent for swing sideways on a swing

- Trevor

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#89118 - 18/04/2002 17:43 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
This would get annoying very quickly.

Sean

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#89119 - 18/04/2002 18:28 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: Terminator]
CurlyKicker
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Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 135
Loc: Orange County, CA
In reply to:

This would get annoying very quickly




I don't know about that. There have been some close calls while driving and flipping through my playlists. An audible cue seems like it would be nice AND safe.
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#89120 - 18/04/2002 18:35 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
CurlyKicker
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Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 135
Loc: Orange County, CA
I don't know what the plausibilty is of this but, what if there was some way to record the user saying each artist/genre/source/etc into wav files. Then in Emplode "linking" them to the coresponding search parameter. Then u/ling them to the player so that those wavs get played every time a search parameter is selected. Thoughts?
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#89121 - 18/04/2002 18:40 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I hate the sound of my own voice. I wouldn't use it.
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#89122 - 18/04/2002 18:43 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
I usually dont mess around with playlists when im on the move, I only do that sort of thing when I'm stopped at a light. IMHO, it would be a neat feature for about a week, then I would turn it off. Besides that, it would take a lot of development work to implement it. Maybe this would work well on the digital audio center though. hmmm.

Doing searches would still be impossible while on the move, you would still have to fumble around with the remote.

Sean

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#89123 - 18/04/2002 18:47 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: robricc]
CurlyKicker
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Registered: 04/01/2002
Posts: 135
Loc: Orange County, CA
[censored] Rick, I wasn't suggesting to use YOUR voice. Go get a chick that sounds like Katheleen Turner
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#89124 - 18/04/2002 18:53 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
CurlyKicker
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Loc: Orange County, CA
I could just imagine. I'd go get my Ex-girlfriend to do her best porn actress impression while saying, "Oh yeah baby, give me some Trance!" Or, "Lets Rock n' Roll right now baby!" Or "Oh you bad boy, do me like Drum and Bass!"
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#89125 - 18/04/2002 18:59 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
And how exactly do you explain the voice to your girlfriend?
I wouldn't want to use my girlfriend's voice though. That would drive me insane!

- Trevor

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#89126 - 18/04/2002 20:56 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
You wouldn't need to record wave files. There are plenty of decent text-to-speech packages out there that could pronounce and speak the tag information. And these days they sound better that Stephen Hawking, too.
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#89127 - 19/04/2002 03:59 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CurlyKicker]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I'd say this is an excellent way to control a product of this nature, given the lack of UI on the factory head unit. I doubt it's an original idea. Also, having seen/heard it at CES, I can say that this particular implementation sounds terrible!

Rob

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#89128 - 19/04/2002 07:25 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: rob]
jnmunsey
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Registered: 10/01/2002
Posts: 139
Loc: Houston, TX, USA
Hey Rob where did you get that pic of the nellie guy with the dark red top hat ?

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#89129 - 19/04/2002 07:27 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: jnmunsey]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Scarily enough, that picture is of him...
It's on the riocar.org page here

What's Nellie BTW?

- Trevor

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#89130 - 19/04/2002 11:34 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: rob]
CityBeach
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Registered: 09/02/2002
Posts: 15
A friend of mine has this on his BMW PhatBox, and he can find any song in his 30G collection with a few buttons without taking his eyes off the road. Pretty impressive, something my Empeg could learn from. At least we can hack in things like that to the Empeg.

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#89131 - 19/04/2002 12:32 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: tman]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Nellie is slang for an effeminate gay man; it's also used as an adjective meaning like one. It's somewhat derogatory, kinda like ``fairy'', but seems to be used in the gay community now in the same way that black folks use the n-word.

I think that someone has stuck his foot in his mouth. Unless Rob is gay. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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#89132 - 19/04/2002 15:26 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: wfaulk]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Actually I paint my face white and apply eye liner most days. The top hat only comes out at weekends - it's a bit too macho to be an all week accessory.

Rob.

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#89133 - 19/04/2002 15:29 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: CityBeach]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Different products have different approaches to these things. The product you own is a geek toy, that doesn't mean all of our automotive designs have the same UI (or anything close to it). For that matter, just because a company slaps a Pat Pend on a feature doesn't mean they were the first to come up with it.

Rob

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#89134 - 19/04/2002 15:38 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: rob]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Note to Rob: Robert Smith is not to be considered a fashion-sense expert.
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#89135 - 19/04/2002 16:12 Re: Opinions on this PhatBox feature? [Re: tman]
elvis
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Registered: 18/01/2002
Posts: 270
Loc: Arizona USA
Time for a new girlfriend?
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