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#94875 - 23/05/2002 10:31 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: ]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
There are a few things that take a little time. He isn't going anywhere. He can leave the state but it is already at the Federal level now. It's multistate fraud so therefore falls under Federal Law Enforcement jurisdiction--specifically the FBI. He can run all he wants but a federal warrant will follow him for life. Other than the worried community here and the people that are the immediate victims, there isn't an urgency in this matter. Actually the longer they take to investigate this the more likely it is they are gonna catch him in the act and have more charges to file. There is a multitude of angles they can approach this from. I would rather they take longer and get the conviction than this guy get off on a technicality. Unfortunately once the arrest is made it DOES NOT necessarily mean everyone gets their money or empegs right away. It may become evidence and if that is the case it won't be released until after a trial and God knows how long that could take.

So as much as I hate to admit it is really in our best interests on the short term if he pays everyone off and the charges are dropped. (If the feds will drop the charges...it may be too late for that.) He would get off the hook for what he has done but we would have our money/empegs alot quicker.
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#94876 - 23/05/2002 12:12 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
Anonymous
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You could file a lawsuit if he doesn't pay/deliver. And if he is convicted, I'm sure that'll be more than enough evidence to win the lawsuit. Also, the judge may include restitution in the sentence, which is probably what would happen. You need to explain to this idiot that it is in his best interest to pay you guys back. He could either pay you back and be a free man, or he could be forced by the court to pay you back and then go to jail. It's his choice.

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#94877 - 23/05/2002 13:31 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
Diznario
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Registered: 17/10/2001
Posts: 265
Loc: Portland OR
Well, I must say, this is the most unsettling thread I have ever read in this forum.

I'm sorry to hear this has happend, and I hope you guys get either your money or your empegs. Good luck!

As far as our mystery guest goes, he will get what's comming to him, It's just a matter of time.

It's called karma.
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#94878 - 23/05/2002 13:35 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: Diznario]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Or Instant Karma, the kind that a plane ticket to Peoria would bring.
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#94879 - 23/05/2002 15:17 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: tfabris]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
As much as I would like to, that isn't the answer. I have a career in the military to worry about and we need to let law enforcement do their job. If they can't or won't bring this guy to justice, then there are other options--most of which don't involve breaking the law.
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#94880 - 23/05/2002 15:31 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: tfabris]
Diznario
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Loc: Portland OR
Personally, I prefer slow, methodical karma, instead of instant. The kind that several trips to Peoria over the course of several months would bring. But I digress...

StaHi is right. We need not be in a hurry, and should at least give the po po a chance.
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#94881 - 23/05/2002 16:19 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: andys]
andys
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Registered: 02/05/2002
Posts: 25
Loc: Yorkshire, UK
Well, I've emailed him to tell him that I would like an International Banker's Draft or International Money Order made out to myself in Sterling for the full amount that it originally cost me to send the money to him (£529.00, no more, no less)

I have asked him to send it to me via air mail and have told him that once I have paid it into my account and the funds have cleared, I will inform the authorities that he has returned the money in full. (Obviously I will make it clear that this is only in my case and that others are still awaiting either the Empeg or their money as the case may be).

I am awaiting his response ...

Keith - have you had any progress ?


Andy.
(almost 60Gb Mk2a Blue ...)
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#94882 - 23/05/2002 19:01 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: tfabris]
Satan_X
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Registered: 22/03/2002
Posts: 251
Loc: Ramsey, NJ
Why not an Empeg meet in Peoria? Think of the fun!
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#94883 - 23/05/2002 19:23 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: Satan_X]
ninti
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
> Why not an Empeg meet in Peoria? Think of the fun!

Bring your car, your Empeg, and your shotgun.
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#94884 - 23/05/2002 22:26 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: ninti]
Heather
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 510
Loc: NY

Bring your car, your Empeg, and your shotgun.


In his shoes, I would personally get more satisfaction out of punching the [censored] out of the guy with my bare hands.
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#94885 - 24/05/2002 05:50 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: Heather]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
Our friend isn't Nigerian is he? I am kidding but I don't think much will surprise me after this.--Chris

Six arrested over 'Nigerian e-mail' fraud

Six people were arrested in South Africa over the weekend on suspicion of being involved in the infamous "Nigerian" e-mail and letter fraud.
Four of those detained were Nigerian, one was Cameroonian and the sixth was South African. Police in South Africa believe that the six are part of an international fraud and drug-dealing cartel, sending out thousands of e-mail and letters in an attempt to defraud.
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#94886 - 24/05/2002 10:09 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
Delivery Status


You entered 0301 0120 0008 2824 7525


Your item arrived at 5:11 am on May 24, 2002 in SILVERDALE, WA 98383. Status is updated every evening. Please check again later

We shall see this afternoon by the looks of it. Oh yea, by the way what the heck is a Cameroonian? That is a new one to me.
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#94887 - 24/05/2002 10:34 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
rearviewmirror
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Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 84
Loc: Bangalore, India

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#94888 - 24/05/2002 10:55 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: Heather]
dodgecowboy
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Registered: 31/01/2002
Posts: 214
Loc: Mississippi State University
In his shoes, I would personally get more satisfaction out of punching the [censored] out of the guy with my bare hands.

you can have both, my uncle used to keep a sawed off and a set of brass knuckles behind the counter of his pawnshop. when I asked him what he needed both for he made a good point." any son of a bitch that robs me, is goin to get his knees shot off, then Im goin to beat the [censored] out of him before he dies"
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#94889 - 24/05/2002 10:59 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: dodgecowboy]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Heh, don't you just love America.
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#94890 - 24/05/2002 11:35 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: andys]
kds
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Registered: 28/07/2000
Posts: 21
Apologies for the delay...I've been traveling. I received the following e-mail from "Austin" yesterday:

"I got word from Chris that you needed to hear from me. I thought I sent you an email yesterday along with Andys but maybe it didn't go through. I'll be sending your empeg out shortly (within 2-3days) and I will send it USPS priority as I did with Chris. Email you the tracking number and serial off the empeg then."

I am completely amazed. There's no excuse for waiting an add'l 2-3 days given it's been 10 days since he cashed my check or, more importantly, waiting to send me the serial number of the unit.

I kindly reminded him that, in my last message to him (on 5/20) I clearly stated I was no longer interested in completing the transaction and wanted him to return my money via wire transfer. I provided the wire transfer details in my reply today and told him I expect the money to appear in my account by 5PM tomorrow (Saturday).

Chris, did you get an empeg or a box of coal?

Keith
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#94891 - 24/05/2002 12:19 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: tfabris]
dodgecowboy
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Registered: 31/01/2002
Posts: 214
Loc: Mississippi State University
I love it, its great, but I dont blame him after he had two 13 year olds, steal a cadillac drive it through his front door, and steal all the jewelry he had, then just left with the cadillac wrecked half way inside his store. What did the police tell him," man, that sucks" I dont beleive they ever cought those kids.
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#94892 - 24/05/2002 16:06 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5539
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
You entered 0301 0120 0008 2824 7525

I wonder if any "alarm bells" are ringing at the post office because hundreds of people all over the world are checking on that particular shipping number to see if you have gotten your player yet?

tanstaafl.
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#94893 - 24/05/2002 16:54 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: dodgecowboy]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Knee capping and beating to death is definitely the way to get 13 yr old children back on the straight and narrow.

On a more topical note - any sign of that player yet?

Rob

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#94894 - 24/05/2002 18:41 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: rob]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
I think what we have here is a failure to communicate.

Chris -
I still have the 60 gig empeg. IF your interested shoot me an email back.
-Austin

That message was on May 3rd. I paid $750 for a 60gb empeg shipped overnight. I got something today very late but it sure as hell wasn't a 60gb empeg.

What I recieved was a RD100-20, ser#010101499. The twenty in the model number stands for 20gb. This is absolutely unacceptable. It was NOT the one in the picture he sent me a few days ago. This is like "I am booking a flight to Peoria" unacceptable. The box he sent me a picture of had my name written on it with a black marker. The exterior of the box in the picture was brown this one is white. I am not even gonna test the damned thing out, I am giving it to the police as evidence. I am sure his fingerprints are somewhere on the box, or the unit. He owes me $750 or a 60gb empeg. There will be no dropping of charges, no apologies, no nothing. I will NOT send this back to him till I am paid or given a @#$%ing 60gb empeg.

Austion, or should I say Roger... I know you are sneaking in here and reading this under a different IP--you gave yourself away in your email. THIS ISN'T OVER. Not by a long shot. I hope you sleep well while you can.
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#94895 - 24/05/2002 18:51 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
Austin or Roger or whatever your name is.
You offered me a 60gb empeg for $725, $750 overnight. You sent me a 20gb model. It is different than the one you sent me pictures of. The That is yet again FRAUD. I am turning this one over to the police as I am sure you touched it so they can get the fingerprints and well... it's evidence. The box in the picture was brown, the one you sent was white. I am not unpacking or testing this. I find this unacceptable and I demand that you either send me $750 or a working 60gb empeg. Once I get it and verify that the money order is good and/or verify the 60gb empeg works, I will send whatever this one is you sent me. (20gb by the model number.)

You better start tap dancing cause I am not dropping the charges. Don't [censored] me again. I know who you are. I know where you live. I know you are a criminal and I know the FBI is making an airtight case against you for interstate wire fraud. That is a felony. You can run if you want but a federal warrant will follow you everywhere. I don't think there is anything that you can do right now to set this straight. I don't know if you smoke crack or what but you are screwed up. No more 2-3 day [censored]. I want a money order (USPS) or a 60gb empeg that works OVERNIGHTED. I don't care if you have to charter a private plane to get it here.

You will be hearing alot more about this.

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#94896 - 24/05/2002 18:59 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
jimhogan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
THIS ISN'T OVER. Not by a long shot. I hope you sleep well while you can.

Hmmmm. Military..... Kitsap County.....

Chris, you understand that retargeting of Trident test shots is considered *hugely* uncool, right?
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#94897 - 24/05/2002 19:04 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: jimhogan]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
What's a Trident?
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#94898 - 24/05/2002 19:11 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Interesting. That serial number seems pre-fire sale. It is low. Perhaps it is registered with empeg. It is not on the registry on the developer BBS. I know you don't want to loose the fingerprints, but it would be worthwhile to see if it is a 60GB unit. In any case:

a) 20GB, he is screwed, sending the wrong product
b) 60GB original, wrong box maybe or just dumb
c) 60GB upgraded with seals broken, he is screwed if he misrepresented it as "under warranty"

Check with your law enforcement contacts for advice. It might be more evidence, especially after they lift any identifying fingerprints, etc. Also, is it in the stolen list?
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#94899 - 24/05/2002 19:13 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
If I remember correctly, a type of submarine with rather nasty missile armaments. Nuclear?
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#94900 - 24/05/2002 20:04 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: pgrzelak]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Correct.

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#94901 - 24/05/2002 20:08 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
Anonymous
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Yeah if I were you I'd at least open the box to see what's in it. It's possible the 60gig box was damaged so he used another one.

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#94902 - 24/05/2002 21:03 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: ]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
It is a 20 gig.
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#94903 - 24/05/2002 21:19 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
Anonymous
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Off with his head!

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#94904 - 25/05/2002 05:46 Re: SCAM ALERT [Re: stahimooney]
stahimooney
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Registered: 29/04/2002
Posts: 126
Loc: Virginia
Btw I know what a trident is but I am not at liberty to discuss anything about them.
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