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#98161 - 07/06/2002 03:25 HELP
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Bad news for me tonight. I had my deck in my friends sled tongiht and the 3 amp fuse blew on the yellow wire off the cage.
After i got back to my car and got to test my empeg, i found out the the screen doesn't turn on anymore, and the led on the blinks like the unmodified led does. My led i set in hijack to blink every 10 seconds. Here is a copy of the bootup. What is wrong with my player?


empeg-car bootstrap v1.02 20001106 ([email protected])
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

e000 v1.04
Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux....................................... done, booting the ker
nel.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg50-hijack-v274 ([email protected]) (gcc ve
rsion 2.95.3 20010315 (release)) #2 Thu Jun 6 19:37:21 EDT 2002
Processor: Intel StrongARM
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 9, serial number 40104126)
Command line: mem=16m
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 14952k/16M available (1040k code, 20k reserved, 368k data, 4k init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11 1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
Signature is 20706d65 'emp '
Found custom animation at offset 0x9b734
empeg display initialised.
empeg dsp audio initialised
empeg dsp mixer initialised
empeg dsp initialised
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg remote control/panel button initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0004b00).
empeg RDS driver initialised
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
hda: TOSHIBA MK3017GAP, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK3017GAP, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK3017GAP, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK3017GAP, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK3017GAP, ATA DISK drive
hda: TOSHIBA MK3017GAP, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x000-0x007,0x038 on irq 6
hda: TOSHIBA MK3017GAP, 28615MB w/0kB Cache, CHS=58140/16/63
empeg-flash driver initialize
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman ([email protected])

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC 00:02:d7:28:10:1
e
Partition check:
hda: hda1 < hda5 hda6 > hda2 hda3 hda4
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter pump...hange_root: old root has d_count=1
Trying to unmount old root ... okay
Freeing unused kernel memory: 4k initempeg init 0.8
I see this is a developer image!
Mounting proc
Mounting first music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hda4 as reiserfs but got error 19
Mounting second music partition
Tried to mount /dev/hdc4 but got error 6
Error mounting partitions (possibly already mounted)
Remounting first music partition read-only
Remounting second music partition read-only
No secondary hard disk
Press 'q' now to go into development mode. You Have Zero Seconds To Comply...
Starting player

player.cpp : 385:empeg-car 2.00-beta11 2002/02/08.
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#98162 - 07/06/2002 04:18 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings.

Ugh. The boot log looks fine to me. Questions:

a) Do you get sound out of the unit? (display problem only?)
b) If you get sound, do you get the normal LED pulse then?
c) Do you see the controlled (slow) blink rate when the player is in standby?
d) Can you control or see the player via ethernet? serial? USB?

I suspect power to display board. If the display is broken, or power is not getting to the display, the PIC will power the blinking LED, but the blink software in hijack should only modify the blink rate when the player is off... I suspect that a fuse blew going to the display. Contact support for troubleshooting details.
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#98163 - 07/06/2002 04:23 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
a) Yes, i do get sound out of the player. But it takes a minute or two for the player to start playing
b) Yes, The led pulses normally.
c) The 4 buttons on the front of the empeg doesn't seem to be responding. But the volume did work, but was very slow.
d) I'm running xp with beta 11 and my usb didn't work. Serial did work with hyperterm. didn't check ethernet.

Thanks for the reply. I hope this helped a bit more.
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#98164 - 07/06/2002 04:31 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Do you have the illuminated button hack on this player? Did the unit suffer from a fall?

It seriously sounds like a blown fuse powering the display, display board or fuses. Bad new either way, I am afraid... Definately contact support!!!
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#98165 - 07/06/2002 04:33 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
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Nope, don't have the illuminated button hack, although i wish i did because that is one of the coolest things i've seen.

I've never dropped my empeg, i've never let anyone else carry it. I treat it like gold. This will be the last time i bring it to a friends car

I'm going to take off the faceplate to look at my display.

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#98166 - 07/06/2002 04:55 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
I suspect the delay in startup is because of the filesystems. If something blew out, I am guessing your filesystem needs an fsck. You might want to try and do a sync, just to put your filesystems and database file back in order.

Given the blown main fuse, I am guessing that the nipple on the display itself should be fine. I am guessing the fuses to the display board are gone, but that would not explain why the buttons don't work. Can you confirm that while playing a song?
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#98167 - 07/06/2002 05:05 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Ok, i just checked the buttons. They seem to be working fine. i can put the player into standby, and the led blinks how i set it to in hijack. I can pause and unpause the player. fastforward and etc. Volume still seems slower, but thats probally just because i don't see my screen.

I just tried to do a sync with the com port with no luck. Emplode isn't finding my deck.

And i still can't find my 2.5mm hex tool this isn't my night.

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#98168 - 07/06/2002 05:06 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
oliver
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Also, my player won't go to the prompt. When it tells me to press q, i do, and wait and wait and wait without any reply.
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#98169 - 07/06/2002 05:17 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Well, at least the audio and controls work. As to removing the face, it is a 2.5mm hex. If you did not have a physical shock, though, the display tube is likely to be in tact. Which would only leave fuses / power path. I know there is a way with a meter to check the power at test points on the display board. But I don't remember what those are at the moment. Looking...
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#98170 - 07/06/2002 05:19 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
From the terminal session? Try typing q again - if the player is in standby, you sometimes need the additional hit. Meanwhile, reboot with the terminal active, watch the boot and try getting into it from there after the player loads.
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#98171 - 07/06/2002 05:28 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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ethernet and com port doesn't seem to be working to connect via emplode. USB does show up. i can connect, but when i try and sync the good old xp usb driver craps out.

I tried hitting q a bunch of times durning startup, but it just seems to hang after it says it started the player.cpp file.
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#98172 - 07/06/2002 05:35 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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finally got into the prompt. i tried typing fsck and it echoed back

empeg:/empeg/bin# fsck
Parallelizing fsck version 1.19 (13-Jul-2000)

How do i actually run the file checker?
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#98173 - 07/06/2002 05:40 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

The quick answer. This might help...

I know there are a few test points on the display board, but I do not remember where. Meanwhile, the fuses for the display board are underneath the drive tray. You will not be able to get to them (surface mount) unless you void the warranty and remove the drive tray. Any word from support?


Edited by pgrzelak (07/06/2002 06:17)
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#98174 - 07/06/2002 06:22 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
I just took off the fasica, and the fill nipple is not broken. So this is really good i guess. I wrote david right before i started this thread. And he asked me to check the nipple also.

I guess a good thing that has come out of all this is i'm not a stranger any more finally building up my post count

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#98175 - 07/06/2002 06:28 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Valid point about the posting!!!

I am glad that the nipple is okay. That was the worst concern, but it was unlikely. Given that the fuse blew in the line, I am guessing you lost some fuses going to the display card as well. Unfortunately, the only way to check is to remove the drive tray and verify with a meter. There might be other test points or other fuse to check as well, but I am sure David will fill you in on what to test next.

I have a bad feeling that you will be sending this unit home for repair...
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#98176 - 07/06/2002 09:32 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
When a resolution is reached for this problem, please let me know, and I will add it to the FAQ entry that describes the fill nipple.
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#98177 - 07/06/2002 16:52 Re: HELP [Re: tfabris]
oliver
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Posts: 691
David gave me permission to open the player and test the fuses. I will do this any report back to the bbs. I would to thank paul for all his help this morning.

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#98178 - 07/06/2002 21:06 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
Hey Guys,
I just finished testing the 3 1amp fuses near my display connector. The top 2 are still good. The only one that isn't good is the lower fuse. I'm attaching a picture. Please note this isn't an actual picture of the board in my mark2a, this is from the site with the directions on how to fix these fuses.


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#98179 - 08/06/2002 01:05 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
oliver
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on a brighter note, the usb on my mark 1 has worked flawlessly with windows xp and beta 11 hijacked.
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#98180 - 08/06/2002 05:48 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
I'm stealing that picture for the FAQ, is that OK with the two parties involved in its creation?
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#98181 - 08/06/2002 05:48 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Glad to hear it is only the fuse. I don't know if you are comfortable with the soldering to replace it or not, but identifying the source of the problem is more than half the battle.

I find it interesting that the Mark 1 doesn't have the USB problem with XP... Tony: was the USB problem fixed in the internal releases, or are it still being actively worked on? Could be an interesting clue...
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#98182 - 10/06/2002 14:22 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
Faahrev
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Registered: 10/06/2002
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Loc: Rijswijk, Netherlands
Amazing. I have the exact same problem so it seems (not the sinc problems though). The same fuse blown. Thx for this thread. Anyone for the exact purpose of this fuse?

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#98183 - 10/06/2002 14:38 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
I don't run XP, and also the alpha team doesn't have the latest-latest-latest internal build, so I don't know whether or not the USB-driver-under-XP issues have been resolved or not.
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#98184 - 11/06/2002 03:13 Re: HELP [Re: tfabris]
Roger
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They haven't.
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#98185 - 14/06/2002 18:01 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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Well i just got back from my trip. My mark1 worked excellent expect for twice on the way back it over heated. Thanks mark for the temp warning. The usb with xp i stated as working great has now stopped working again. I was able to add about 4 cds right before i left, and i just tried to add a few more and it just stops half way through (or less).
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#98186 - 07/07/2002 13:44 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
oliver
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Great News guys,
David wrote me an email friday night saying that my player has been fixed and is on its way back to me. I would like to thanks everyone, especially paul g (pgrzelak) for the help when my player died

Without this forum the empeg wouldn't be such a great investment!
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#98187 - 07/07/2002 21:01 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
lockuplever
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Registered: 30/01/2002
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Loc: Tucson, AZ
Well put! So what product is this group buying next? Cars, boats, etc. I would like this kind of support from everything I buy!
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#98188 - 09/07/2002 01:01 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
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Got my player back today, good as new. So happy to have her back in mint condition David also fixed the dc power plug for me (sometimes my player thought it was at home when it was in the car) Happy happy joy joy! Now if i could only get to a journeyman a little quicker
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#98189 - 09/07/2002 03:44 Re: HELP [Re: oliver]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

I am glad it worked out! Of course, it is still a question as to why it happened. There might have been a wiring problem in the car you tried it out in.
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#98190 - 09/07/2002 10:21 Re: HELP [Re: pgrzelak]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
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that would be my guess, but my friend has been using his empeg daily in his car without a repeat of this problem. I guess i just have sh*tty luck

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