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#109052 - 02/08/2002 14:55 Hijack idea.
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hey, Mark. How long has it been since I've praised Hijack and thanked you for all of your efforts?

Well, let me just say it again: Hijack is really cool, thank you for all the work you've done for the player.

You know, my wife can always tell when I'm going to ask her for something because I start complimenting her...

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Hey, here's an interesting idea...

Okay, the kernel is what's responsible for writing the values to flash when power is lost to the player, right?

So, in theory, Hijack could write any value it wanted to a specific spot in flash. For instance, if the player told the kernel that it should be at 0db the next time it boots in the car, Hijack could intercept that and say, "no, the next time you power up the player in the car, make sure it's at -30db" just by intercepting that write-to-the-in-car-volume spot in flash and replacing the bits representing 0db with the bits that represent -30db.

I would love to be able to "spec" what volume level my player boots at in the car. No matter what I set it to when I powered it down, I would always want it to boot at something like -30db. That way, I don't have to remember to turn it down before shutting it off.

The volume ramp feature already built into the player is nice to prevent a heart attack when booting, but I still fiddle with the volume to turn it down every time I start the car. A feature like this would make for less fiddling when I get in the car.

Of course, I'd want to be able to spec the value. Not sure if that should be done in config.ini or if you have enough flash bits left over to spec it from within the hijack user interface. Either way would be great.
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#109053 - 02/08/2002 16:33 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: tfabris]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
I agree this would be cool. I asked for this a while ago and even did some research into which flash bits would need to be changed. Predefined volume is just one of the applications of such a mechanism.
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#109054 - 02/08/2002 16:48 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14477
Loc: Canada
Mmm.. nothing to complex about this, could be done, I suppose.

I'm trying to sleep off my cold tonight (no coding), and catching a plane in the morning to your neck of the woods. Driving up to the Sierras from SJC tomorrow afternoon, coming back down a week later.

So.. remind me in a week or two.

cheers

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#109055 - 02/08/2002 17:43 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: tfabris]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
How ironic. I was just thinking that this feature needed to be added about 2 hours ago when testing beta13. I realised that the loud volume ramping issue had never really bothered me as my VW headunit had a feature that limited the turn on volume, and it made me realise that it would be a really cool feature to have in the empeg. So I just came to suggest it, and found that Tony has decided that being first on "Read the FAQ" messages isn't enough
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#109056 - 02/08/2002 17:46 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: tfabris]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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Of course, I'd want to be able to spec the value. Not sure if that should be done in config.ini or if you have enough flash bits left over to spec it from within the hijack user interface. Either way would be great.


config.ini. If there's any spare flash bits I want to steal 2 of them for additional bass/treble range!

But seriously, this *has* to be configurable. Some of us still use the player locked to 0dB and an external HU. config.ini is the logical place for it - the variable doesn't need to be there on startup, but on shutdown.
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#109057 - 02/08/2002 18:18 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: genixia]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
But what if one pulls the power during bootup, before config.ini can get read? Wouldn't the code for that get ugly?
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#109058 - 02/08/2002 20:11 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: tfabris]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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SImple - if config.ini hasn't been read, don't overwrite the value already in flash. That shouldn't be too ugly - there's already code in hijack that checks for config.ini having been read.

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#109059 - 05/08/2002 12:17 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: tfabris]
foxtrot_xray
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Registered: 03/03/2002
Posts: 687
Loc: Atlanta, Georgia
Take that one step further. As silly as it sounds, this is what my 'factory' Ford Radio does in my Ranger - if it's OVER a certain value when the radio's shutoff, then the next time you restart the car, it's set at 'medium'. However, if it's below 'medium', then the next start-up is at it's last-saved value. It's actually a feature (probably THE ONE feature) that I like about the factory radio.

Me.
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#109060 - 05/08/2002 14:05 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: foxtrot_xray]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
Yeah, I remember my dad's bronco doing that before we ripped out the tape player and put in a CD player. It actually worked quite well, as halfway up was a comfortable listening level in a stopped car...

Config.ini seems like the easiest place for this, I don't see the need to be able to change the value while driving... I'd really like this feature... Please?

Matthew

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#109061 - 10/08/2002 00:31 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: foxtrot_xray]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
if it's OVER a certain value when the radio's shutoff, then the next time you restart the car, it's set at 'medium'. However, if it's below 'medium', then the next start-up is at it's last-saved value.

I've given this a lot of thought, and I wouldn't want it to work this way. I'd want it to be set to X value every time on each in-car bootup. I would never want it to be lower than that.

I can see how some people would prefer it the way you described, but this is not what I would want.
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#109062 - 30/08/2002 13:32 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: tfabris]
image
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Registered: 28/04/2002
Posts: 770
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
crap, i hope that mark hasn't left yet on his trip. or else someone's gonna have to remember to bump this thread when he gets back =)

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#109063 - 02/09/2002 11:05 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: image]
Narkotic
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Registered: 20/02/2002
Posts: 158
ah i remember my eclipse 5303 unit had this. You could save a volume preset for what it would start off as when you started the car up. I did like this feature. Yea, the ramp is cool but i'm forgetful and sometimes it ramps up fast and loud and scares the crap outta me.

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#109064 - 12/09/2002 06:49 Re: Hijack idea. [Re: Narkotic]
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Registered: 28/04/2002
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*poke* mark =)

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