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#281165 - 07/05/2006 00:04 My 2nd run-in with Nigeria
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4925
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
When not stuffing heroin into Virgin Mary statues, these poeple love trying to defraud me. This one is just so sloppy...

I was trying to sell my old mobile phone on ebay and someone that registered today hit buy it now. I assumed I wouldn't be shipping my phone to this person, and I was right. Here's the auction link.

Here's the email I got first:
Quote:
Hello,
Compliment of the season to you. I am Mrs kate Lampard from Wi,USA but Presently in London,UK for a church program. I saw your product and i am really intrested in buying it for my Daugther as a surprise gift for her in school (University of Nigeria) and i will handle the shipment expenses.i will send you my fedex account so you will not pay no money for shipping to nigeria. i will be sending you payment via PayPal,so kindly send me your paypal account email address so as to immedaitely make out your payment. make sure you get the package ready for shipment today,you can ship the item as soon as you recieve the paypal confirmation.Expecting your reply so as to immedaitely make out the payment.
Thanks,
kate Lampard

Here's the fake paypal receipt they sent:
Quote:
https://www.paypal.com/us
You've got cash!Payments by PayPal
Dear Rob Riccardelli,
Mrs Kate Lampard, just sent you money with PayPal.

Mrs Kate Lampard, is a Verified buyer.

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Payment Details
Ebay item: 9722786899
Item Name: Motorola A780 Quad Band GSM PDA w/ EDGE **
UNLOCKED **
Qty: 1
Amount: US $462.89
Transaction ID: 34B 2410 9N5 7045 20H
Note: This PayPal® payment has been deducted from the buyer's account and
has been "APPROVED" but will not be credited to your account until the s
hipment tracking number is sent to our customers service for shipment
verification so as to secure both the seller and the buyer. And if there
is any problem within you and the buyer you are to contact the customer
care representative immedaitely.
([email protected])
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Here is a message from Kate Lampard

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I will be using my fedex account for the shipment ,so all you have to do
is to sent me your physical contact address so that i can arranged for
the shipment and i will be sending you a fedex label that contain both
my daughter's address and my fedex account number.
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Shipping Information
Address: Verified.
Address Status: Confirmed.

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As an ebay member with 223 positive feedbacks since 1997, the PayPal practice of not putting the funds in my account until tracking info is received is a new one on me...

And finally a follow-up since sending "payment:"
Quote:
Hello,
I have made out my payment to you for this item purchase ,So check your mail for the new confirmation mail from paypal.Get back to me immediately you receive the confirmation mail from paypal and don't forget to send me your physical contact address and the exact time you will be at home cos I will be Handling the Shipping myself to my Daughter there in nigeria With my Fedex Account Number so there is no Need of you Paying for the Shipping.So i can schedule Fedex to come and pick them up from you in other to reduce the stress of you driving down to their location to send or if you will drop it off at a Fedex outlet nearer to you there Pls let me Know.Then i can send you my Daughters Address and Fedex account number.Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards
kate Lampard

I just love Nigeria!

I notified ebay, but I don't expect swift action.
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-Rob Riccardelli
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#281166 - 07/05/2006 00:08 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: robricc]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
I suppose you could send them a brick with "eff you" written in crayon, but the FedEx account was probably set up using a stolen credit card or account details.

Gareth

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#281167 - 07/05/2006 00:11 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: g_attrill]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4925
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
I thought about doing that after already leaving negative feedback. If I hadn't already left feedback, I probably would have put a few cinder blocks in an oversized box.
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-Rob Riccardelli
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#281168 - 07/05/2006 03:40 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: robricc]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Tell them your address is 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, Washington, DC.
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#281169 - 07/05/2006 10:06 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: robricc]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
When that happened to me ebay pretty much wouldn't do anything. They wouldn't even refund me the auction fee.

Why would they want to arrange the shipping is there another scam besides trying to get the phone for free ?
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Matt

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#281170 - 07/05/2006 10:31 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: msaeger]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Certainly report it to PayPal though. I know that eBay bought them, but I think they will be slightly more interested in the fraud / spoofing of their receipt process.
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#281171 - 07/05/2006 10:39 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: pgrzelak]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
My nigerian attack didn't involve paypal. When mine happened they were still trying the western union scam.
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#281172 - 07/05/2006 10:57 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: robricc]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Tsk-tsk, sic transit gloria mundi!. From $125.000.000 of late oil minister's embezzled funds to a mere phone!
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#281173 - 07/05/2006 13:30 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: robricc]
petteri
addict

Registered: 02/08/2004
Posts: 432
Loc: Miami, FL USA
Your reports of success with this phone on the Cingular network led me to get one! Now that you've replaced it I'm wondering what phone has taken its place. I'm thinking of the new Nokia E61.

I guess I might be next in line for the Nigerians when I put my A780 up on Ebay in a few weeks...

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#281174 - 07/05/2006 14:57 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: bonzi]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
As I'm sure you're aware, this scam has little to do with the initial thousands or millions of dollars or the cell phone. It's all about them sending too much money and the victim sending back the excess before he finds out that the initial payment was bogus.
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Bitt Faulk

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#281175 - 07/05/2006 15:06 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: wfaulk]
petteri
addict

Registered: 02/08/2004
Posts: 432
Loc: Miami, FL USA
Yep, been reading about these scams for years now. Has anyone figured out how much money these types of scemes have actually scammed over the years?

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#281176 - 07/05/2006 15:45 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: wfaulk]
g_attrill
old hand

Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
Quote:
As I'm sure you're aware, this scam has little to do with the initial thousands or millions of dollars or the cell phone. It's all about them sending too much money and the victim sending back the excess before he finds out that the initial payment was bogus.


It seems this person actually wanted the phone though - that's what the fake PayPal email was for.

Gareth

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#281177 - 07/05/2006 15:45 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: petteri]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Snopes says:

Quote:
According to a 1997 newspaper article:
"We have confirmed losses just in the United States of over $100 million in the last 15 months," said Special Agent James Caldwell, of the Secret Service financial crimes division. "And that's just the ones we know of. We figure a lot of people don't report them."
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Bitt Faulk

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#281178 - 07/05/2006 20:23 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: wfaulk]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Quote:
Snopes says:

Quote:
According to a 1997 newspaper article:
"We have confirmed losses just in the United States of over $100 million in the last 15 months," said Special Agent James Caldwell, of the Secret Service financial crimes division. "And that's just the ones we know of. We figure a lot of people don't report them."


Ouch! That was almost a decade ago. How much is it now - couple of billions!?
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#281179 - 07/05/2006 20:26 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: wfaulk]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Quote:
As I'm sure you're aware, this scam has little to do with the initial thousands or millions of dollars or the cell phone. It's all about them sending too much money and the victim sending back the excess before he finds out that the initial payment was bogus.

This just reminded me of all those letters from rich widows...
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Dragi "Bonzi" Raos Q#5196 MkII #080000376, 18GB green MkIIa #040103247, 60GB blue

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#281180 - 07/05/2006 20:32 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: bonzi]
Phil.
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2487
and of course www.419eater.com

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#281181 - 08/05/2006 06:02 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: robricc]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2992
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
I'm not sure you will get ANY action, if my past experience with eBay is anything to go by.
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#281182 - 08/05/2006 11:00 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: schofiel]
robricc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4925
Loc: Orange County, NY USA
I got the listing fee refunded.
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-Rob Riccardelli
80GB 16MB MK2 090000736

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#281183 - 28/03/2007 23:45 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: Phil.]
wetbaloney
new poster

Registered: 28/03/2007
Posts: 1
Ok I got essentially the same thing: I am SoAndSo from Brooklyn, but am currently in the Netherland for Church function. I saw your item blah blah blah and bought it for my grandson's birthday......Nigerian Address, bull$hit about payment etc....

Only thing is -- I got a warning email from eBay that this was a "suspicious bidder" because his (her?) address could not be verified.

I am so sick of this [Email][email protected][/Email] Nigeria is obviously a society with a sick culture.


Edited by tfabris (29/03/2007 16:30)

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#281184 - 29/03/2007 13:21 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: wetbaloney]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Okay, I'm really curious why you went to the trouble of signing up for an account on this board only to respond to something that is totally incidental to the board and then attached an mp3 of Mr. Ed to your post.

I'm not saying you can't do any of those things, but it's kind of odd. You would appear to be a spammer, other than you're not, well, spamming anything.
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#281185 - 29/03/2007 13:58 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
They may have attached the file simply as a way to host it so they could use it elsewhere... Just speculation of course, since it seems totally odd and a random thing to do. Hopefully we don't see a rash of new members trying to use the board as a file repository.
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Bruno
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#281186 - 29/03/2007 14:28 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: hybrid8]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Except for that it's already online at www.gotwavs.com. The exact same version.
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Bitt Faulk

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#281187 - 29/03/2007 15:48 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: wfaulk]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
Maybe he's a die-hard empegger that has just lurked and lurked here for years, finally finding a reason to join in the fray.

Or maybe he wants to send us each too much money and wait for the refund.
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#281188 - 29/03/2007 16:31 Re: My 2nd run-in with Nigeria [Re: hybrid8]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31471
Loc: Seattle, WA
Quote:
They may have attached the file simply as a way to host it so they could use it elsewhere... Just speculation of course, since it seems totally odd and a random thing to do. Hopefully we don't see a rash of new members trying to use the board as a file repository.


I have removed the file from the post. I don't know if that removes it from the server's file repository or not.

Hm. I suppose I should have saved off the URL before performing the delete, so I could make sure. Darn.

Edit: Bitt had the URL. As far as I can tell, the file is gone and can't be retrieved from the BBS any more. Good.
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