all the managers started bringing in other managers and project leads (basically all of their friends from other jobs) and they just kinda forgot to hire the people who would actually be doing the work.

Hmmm... makes me even more glad to be working where I am.

Probably 30 people working in the building (including part timers) and only one person with any managerial responsibilities or even aspirations towards management. And that manager is universally acclaimed as the best any of us have ever worked for. The downside is... if he goes away, chances are the whole operation will fall to pieces.

When he retires, I'll probably do the same.

tanstaafl.