They were way too quiet and sounded washed out, even at full volume. I usually listen to them plugged straight in to the output of my Creative Audigy 2, so maybe I used to them being over driven ??? I would never use the HD590 when I'm out and about they are way too bulky, I thinking of trying out the Bose Triports, anybody tried these before ?

I'm surprised really, I'm mean most reviews say the Karma is really loud, I have to run my Sony in-ear's at about 26, there is a distinct lack of bass too, just gotta get used to the EQ I guess...

mmm hang on just re-ripped Sister Hazel - Chasing Daylight in Ogg from RMM and it sounds much better !!!

I think all I need is a bit of time with it

Cheers

Cris.