If you're used to a Karma, there's a bit of a lack of depth of functionality on either the iPod or the Zune. Rather unfortunate, but I suspect it's to allow first-time users to get round more easily rather than any lack of implementation effort.

I miss now & next type screens too. And tweak order & the rest...

From what I saw, the new non-touch iPods work pretty much the same way as the old ones just with more gloss and a coverflow-style mode (which is pretty cute if you have all your album art in there, and a sad reminder of how badly pieced together your music collection is if you don't).

Hugo