I've been talking to Patrick by PM and thought I'd just copy into this thread since its still ongoing and as yet unsolved.

I basically asked about a possible PIC problem, and said I was going to check my sisters tuner and get back to him, then:

Originally Posted By: sein
I've just been out to check my sisters tuner and that also gives me no output at all on Hijacks 'Show Button Codes' display when fiddling with the stalk.

I don't have a real stalk - so what I do is short out the collar and tip connections with a piece of cut and stripped cable. Mark shows that it works fine for him (if you were following the thread, he has a picture).

Originally Posted By: pca
I'm rather puzzled by this. The PIC is the same one, running the same code, as the original empeg tuners. I programmed up a batch of about 200 some years ago, and have been using that stock ever since. I know for a fact that several people who bought the kit are using it with a stalk quite happily, so it seems unlikely there is a hardware fault that has gone unnoticed until now.

The same dual opamp that is used for the stalk voltage buffering is used for the signal-strength amplification, and that works fine. So it's unlikely to be only one half of the LM258/KA258 that has died, although it's not impossible. Also, the PIC code, while it could become corrupted by power surges, is obviously mostly intact as the tuner works as a tuner. I can't see that it's very likely that only part of the code has died, so neatly confining it's effects to the stalk smile

It might be a construction error, I suppose. Can you check whether the diode D2 definitely has the end with the black band connected to +5v, and the other end connected to one end of R4? Also, check that R4 is really a 1K resistor, R2 is 22K, and R1 is 4.7K. If any of these were wrong you would get funny voltages at the PIC pin 2, which would produce erroneous results.

The stalk interface is a rather crudely generated analog voltage, from a resistor ladder in the stalk, and the PIC is simply reading a calibrated set of voltage ranges. If the source voltage is wrong, or the voltage produced by the stalk is out, you'll get odd/no effects.

Originally Posted By: sein
I will check for construction errors, but Andy has done a great job and I think these are a little unlikely. I seem to remember he has/had a stalk working fine in his Clio.

Originally Posted By: pca
If the source voltage is wrong, or the voltage produced by the stalk is out, you'll get odd/no effects.

I think this is my next point of call, I haven't checked this!

Will let you know how it goes once I've checked things out again sometime soon.
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Hussein