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#26519 - 12/02/2001 15:34 Xing VBR Header
dids
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Registered: 29/09/1999
Posts: 101
Loc: Santa Monica, California, USA
I noticed that lame lets you remove the Xing VBR header from its output files (-t option I believe).

Winamp seems to work fine without it and I haven't yet had the time to try it on the empeg.

Does anyone know what this header does and what harm, if any, is caused by not having it?

-D

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#26520 - 12/02/2001 15:43 Re: Xing VBR Header [Re: dids]
Jazzwire
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Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 483
Loc: Guernsey
If this is the header that musicmatch leaves out then the time remaining display in winamp will be incorrect.
Symptoms also include the bitrate display changing all the time..

I use MP3 tag studio to "repair" all of my vbr files and they work great on the empeg...(Check the release notes for a mention of how the wrong vbr headers can screw up fastforward and rewind)

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#26521 - 12/02/2001 16:03 Re: Xing VBR Header [Re: Jazzwire]
dids
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Registered: 29/09/1999
Posts: 101
Loc: Santa Monica, California, USA
I was afraid this could be the one.

Anybody from empeg could confirm that this header is required by the decoder for proper time display?

-D

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#26522 - 12/02/2001 17:26 Re: Xing VBR Header [Re: dids]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Anybody from empeg could confirm that this header is required by the decoder for proper time display?

You don't need anyone to confirm it, it is definitely a confirmed problem already. It's in their software release notes for the player software, and has been for several versions:
It appears that Audio Catalyst will produce files with incorrect VBR headers if Real Player 7 is also installed. It is not possible to fast forward or rewind such files, the time display will not update and the player will not remember where it was in the track if powered off. Apparently the latest version of MP3 Tag Studio can repair these files although we have not tested it.


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#26523 - 12/02/2001 18:58 Re: Xing VBR Header [Re: tfabris]
dids
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Registered: 29/09/1999
Posts: 101
Loc: Santa Monica, California, USA
I remember reading about this but I wasn't sure that this header and what lame calls the 'Xing VBR header' was one and the same piece of data.

Thanks,
-D


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#26524 - 12/02/2001 21:18 Re: Xing VBR Header [Re: dids]
dids
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Registered: 29/09/1999
Posts: 101
Loc: Santa Monica, California, USA
Well, it seems like the -t flag in lame is useless.

The help states 2 uses for it (one relative to wav files and one for the Xing VBR tag), yet encoding with our without -t produces EXACTLY the same file.

BTW, winamp seems very confused over the length of my VBR files. So it seems this isn't related to this tag.

-D

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