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its the newer fsck that gives problems. i have to use the backup fsck.old to do it.

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Works for me...

empeg:/bin# fsck -f /dev/hda5
e2fsck 1.29 (24-Sep-2002)
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/hda5: 1526/4096 files (0.5% non-contiguous), 11331/16384 blocks

Are you doing 'fsck /' maybe? Does that work with the stock fsck?

-Mike