Ah, I think I have it.
(Hint: Neither one is yet a teenager.)

Doesn't matter. Charlie's 13 and Pat's 28. Then you go to 15 and 30. It's a useless piece of information
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Russ
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"The difference between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will." Vince Lombardi