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Air will never move over the wings unless the plane makes forward progress on the runway.

Incorrect. The plane must make forward progress through the air, not on the runway.
Right- but how will the plane make progress through the air if it is not moving foward down the runway? The air is stationary (no wind), so the plane must move in order for the air to pass over the wings, right? It seems to me that the plane won't move as long as the ground shifts to compensate for whatever thrust is being generated, assuming the thrust is being generated parallel to the ground.
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