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#118286 - 28/09/2002 14:59 floating-ground amplifiers
spopovic
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Registered: 27/03/2002
Posts: 13
Loc: CROATIA
Can some one tell what are these F-G Amps.
I' m buying one Amp for may EMPEG MARK1 player, and I don't know wich one.
Alpine MRV-F340
or Pioneer GM-X924
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#118287 - 29/09/2002 21:08 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: spopovic]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
I suspect that floating ground amps don't have their case or signal grounds connected to power ground. This would be useful when putting one in a strange-ass car that has it's body connected to the positive battery terminal.
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#118288 - 02/10/2002 04:38 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: genixia]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
All (decent) in-car amps have floating ground inputs - anything from a name brand, definitely.

Hugo

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#118289 - 02/10/2002 09:36 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: altman]
spopovic
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Registered: 27/03/2002
Posts: 13
Loc: CROATIA
Thank you..I'll take Alpine AMP.
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#118290 - 04/10/2002 09:32 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: spopovic]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
If you're installing a Mk.1 then the first thing you'll need to do is short those floating grounds to ground using the cables supplied!

Rob

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#118291 - 04/10/2002 09:33 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: rob]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I thought it was the opposite. I thought that the cables were supposed to make non-floating-ground amplifiers work properly with the Mk1.

Have I had it wrong all along?
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#118292 - 04/10/2002 09:37 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: tfabris]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
The cables simply tie the RCA plug grounds to chassis ground - i.e. they defeat the floating input of most amplifiers. This is because the Mk.1 has floating outputs - you can't float BOTH ends of the connection (at least, not usually, but since this is a black art it has been known to happen).

Rob

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#118293 - 04/10/2002 12:13 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: rob]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I guess I was misunderstanding all along. So how should this FAQ entry be re-worded in order to be accurate?
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#118294 - 04/10/2002 17:09 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: tfabris]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Umm.. I guess you could delete it and start over!

The mechanics of the process are correct, just the reasoning is wrong. Just delete the reasoning - I'm sure most of the 350 Mk.1 owners have worked it out by now anyway.

Rob

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#118295 - 04/10/2002 22:42 Re: floating-ground amplifiers [Re: rob]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Just delete the reasoning

Good idea. Done.
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