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#157973 - 30/04/2003 10:54 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: genixia]
mschrag
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Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
Keep in mind that secured creditors get to pick the meat off the bones first ... And there are likely quite a few banks, etc that have assets/money secured against SonicBlue's debt.

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#157974 - 30/04/2003 11:02 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: ricin]
Tim
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Registered: 25/04/2000
Posts: 1529
Loc: Arizona
If they sold for half the price they're selling for now I'd pick one up in a heartbeat.

For 1/2 a cent?

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#157975 - 30/04/2003 11:03 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: Tim]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
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Loc: US: CA
LOL. Well, that too
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#157976 - 30/04/2003 13:05 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: msaeger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
msaeger, you have the honor of starting what I believe to be the record-holding thread on this BBS, for most number of thread replies in the shortest period of time.

If anyone really DOES get some free Centrals out of this, I would like to buy one. My prototype has some non-functional buttons on its front panel and there aren't replacement parts available for the protos.
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#157977 - 30/04/2003 13:49 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: tfabris]
mdavey
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Registered: 06/03/2003
Posts: 269
Loc: Wellingborough, UK
I will have one if they get shipped. I am in the UK. I am willing to pay a fair price.

They had refurbished Rio Receivers for $40.00 a few weeks ago.

Cheers
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#157978 - 30/04/2003 14:17 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
msaeger, you have the honor of starting what I believe to be the record-holding thread on this BBS, for most number of thread replies in the shortest period of time
For real! And I thought my butter thread was fast

This one took a third of the amount of time that one did to reach about 100 posts
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#157979 - 30/04/2003 14:17 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: mdavey]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I have not received anything yet saying the order was canceled and it is still showing up on my credit card as a temporary sale. So who knows.
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#157980 - 30/04/2003 14:57 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: Laura]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
Just in case its true for some... I'd be happy to buy one.
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#157981 - 30/04/2003 15:12 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I was afraid to post it becaue I am guessing it is just a mistake and someone would probably get bent when they don't get one for a penney buy I posted it anyway.
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#157982 - 30/04/2003 16:13 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: msaeger]
pgrzelak
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Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Worth the amusement anyway. By the way, my order status moved to "processing". Garbage in...
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#157983 - 30/04/2003 16:20 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: pgrzelak]
bodybag
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Registered: 07/03/2002
Posts: 504
Loc: Southern California
Heh... by the time I saw this thread, they had already been removed from the store entirely. I had to read through a few post before I even knew what everyone was so excited about.

<redundant>I would like to buy one if anyone actually gets theirs and has a spare.</redundant>

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#157984 - 30/04/2003 16:46 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: msaeger]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
If any of these orders go through, will someone please sell me one of their extras? It appears I missed the boat :-(

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#157985 - 30/04/2003 17:10 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: andym]
g_attrill
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Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
Something similar happened with some ipaq's recently on another website.

It depends on the wording of the confirmations, whether on the site or by email, and the exact pricing mishap.

I ordered a Kodak DX3700 for £100 last year - normal price was apparently £380. After a big hoohah and test case they offered them to everybody at that price. Personally I think the camera is just about worth £100 but it's nice to have a second camera to carry around without worrying about losing/damaging it:

http://www.kodakcamera.co.uk/

The key points were:

1) The price wasn't stupidly low, and it had "SPECIAL OFFER" in red next to the price.
2) The confirmation emails talked about a contract and your rights to cancel the contract and keeping the email as a proof of purchase.

Gareth

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#157986 - 30/04/2003 17:47 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: pgrzelak]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
Go Paul go. I'm still trying to figure out what happened to my orders but good luck.

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#157987 - 30/04/2003 17:49 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: pgrzelak]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Don't forget the sonicblue order tracking is absolutly meaningless.
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#157988 - 30/04/2003 17:52 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: msaeger]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
sonicblue order tracking is absolutly meaningless.


Exactly. I'd say at this point the odds are about even that they will cancel all the orders and then ship them anyway
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#157989 - 30/04/2003 17:58 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: mcomb]
msaeger
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Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I would predict using past experience as data they will send out the units then a week later the status will show canceled.
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#157990 - 30/04/2003 17:59 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: mcomb]
JeffS
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
Exactly. I'd say at this point the odds are about even that they will cancel all the orders and then ship them anyway

LOL

This would totally fit with my last experience at the SB online store.
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#157991 - 30/04/2003 18:45 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: g_attrill]
AndrewT
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 867
Loc: Oxford, UK
Yeah, I remember that. Eventually they offered me (and everyone else) the camera at ~£100. To be truthful I didn't feel it was really worth it but more importantly I fealt guilty 'scamming' Kodak. I mean, I *knew* it was a mistake and morally I would never have been comfortable owning the thing knowing I had burned Kodak in order to get it, irrrespective of the consumer laws in force. Ok, there's something to be said for 'avenging big corporations' but I think even that's misguided.

I have worked on frontline tech. support and plain old customer support. It's quite an education (as I am sure a lot of us here know already), you never hear when you('re company) get it right but you always hear when it's wrong. Harry home user is on a quest against the enemy and here in the UK his rights are always improving in his favour. In principle I'm not against this since most of the new consumer rights are there to legitimately protect the consumer against unscrupulous sellers. But, it apparently sets a precedent that encourages Harry home user to embark on a crusade on behalf of all of his unknown allies when he gets a swipe at BigCo.

In my experiences BigCo is less likely to do something unscrupulous than LittleCo is. Employees at BigCo probably have nothing to gain from a perceived ripoff and whatever it was was probably accidental. Conversely I have worked for LittleCo where the opposite applied. The major difference is that LittleCo will tell him to piss off (in those words) and Harry home user will tuck his tail between his legs and oblige. When it's BigCo the opposite happens because Harry is on his crusade and he knows there is a long chain of command he needs to work his way through in order to realise his opportunity to treat. Often he know's he's being a pratt but the corporate regime prevents anyone actually telling him this (LittleCo would have told him this long ago and nipped it in the bud there & then).

I work for a BigCo and on a hurried Friday afternoon I once accidentally entered the quantity available into the price field on our web store admin module. In effect, we were advertising 17" monitors for £37.
On the Monday we had (fortunately only) sold 15 of these monitors. To cut a long story short, we chose to honour these orders and the impact was (fortunately) bearable by my business unit. The thing is though; while Harry home user thinks he is on a quest against a large company, in fact (in my case anyhow) he is working-over a finite autonomous unit within the big corporation. Essentially it's a small business operating within a bigger one. In my case it was trivial, but for Kodak it was far less I would imagine. The damage is real and quantifiable, people likely lose jobs and all of that bad stuff.
At the end of the day though, I'd imagine that a single employee entered something somewhere in good faith (MyCo, SB, Kodak, Currys, Amazon etc.) with neither that employee nor the employer having any intention of causing anyone any harm or stitching anyone up, it's a simple human mistake and we are all of course.......

I understand that Currys got off the hook from shipping £0.01 TVs because it was determined in the courts that this was considered by Harry home user as an opportunity to treat - meaning that anyone placing an order for a £0.01 TV would be reasonably expected to know that it was a mistake by the seller and the contract shouldn't be honoured.

In short, I hope SB have the common sense not to ship these units (not that I wouldn't want one myself!).

Ok, that's <rant/> for me, carry on.

Edit: It was Currys not Comet


Edited by Rue (30/04/2003 18:50)

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#157992 - 01/05/2003 04:09 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: AndrewT]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

I hope they don't also. I expect that they won't.

However, having seen the Sonic Blue Store (no relation to the folks @ empeg specifically), nothing would surprise me.

I have been fortunate to actually have success dealing with their store support in the past - my orders have all been complete, accurate and price guarantees honored. But, if this board is a valid sampling, I am one of the very few that can say this.

Trust me, being a fish in an autonomous unit inside another autonomous unit inside a rather large (even after multiple spinoffs) company, I know exactly what you mean about big business being less likely to actively try to <expletive deleted> a customer. But the sheer inertia and confusion involved with that kind of big business can make it very unresponsive to individuals.

I don't think anyone here is really out to get Sonic Blue. Well, maybe their e-store, since many others have had difficulties with them in the past. But on that 1 in 1,000,000 chance that they actually ship the units, it can't hurt to put in the request. Kind of like buying a lottery ticket - you know that you will not win, but people do it anyway.
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#157993 - 01/05/2003 08:58 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: pgrzelak]
russmeister
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Registered: 14/07/2002
Posts: 344
Loc: South Carolina
I don't want to arouse to much hope but I did just get off the phone with SonicBlue and I was told that my order should be shipped tomorrow. The support guy didn't mention anything about the price of the order, as odd as it may have appeared.

We'll see...
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#157994 - 01/05/2003 09:32 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: russmeister]
talmou
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Registered: 22/05/2002
Posts: 20
Loc: London
I know this has been asked a couple of dozen times, but.
If anyone ends up with a spare, I would gladly buy it from them.

I would have tried myself but I'm in the UK.

Thanks... I hope :-)
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#157995 - 01/05/2003 11:04 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: russmeister]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Its still missing from the website too.

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#157996 - 01/05/2003 11:15 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: russmeister]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
My order is still in the processing state but has not been canceled. My credit card also has the temporary authorization to Sonic Blue listed still. I wonder how many if any of the 9 I ordered comes.
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MKI #017/90

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#157997 - 01/05/2003 11:22 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: Laura]
pgrzelak
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Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
9? 9 units? 9 orders of 5?
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#157998 - 01/05/2003 11:33 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: Laura]
Ezekiel
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Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Laura,
If they do come, could I purchase one from you?
-Zeke
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#157999 - 01/05/2003 11:50 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: pgrzelak]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
I put in 3 separate orders, 2 orders of 2 each and then an order of 5. 4 are spoken for and I will probably sell off any over that I might get. I kind of need the money for some remodeling that has gone way over budget. I will sell them here first before going to eBay though I feel bad for doing that.
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MKI #017/90

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#158000 - 01/05/2003 13:04 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: russmeister]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Interesting. Thought it would have been cancelled by now if it was going to be.

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#158001 - 01/05/2003 17:45 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: Laura]
thrasher
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Registered: 10/01/2002
Posts: 362
I'll buy one from you if you get them.
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#158002 - 01/05/2003 18:46 Re: oops sonic blue needs to check the prices [Re: Laura]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Thanks Laura, I would be happy to pay much more than you got them for ;-)

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