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#158250 - 30/04/2003 21:18 AC Shensor Shwitch
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Today when I put the player into the car at the end of the day, I dishcovered that I have the AC shenshor switch problem.

I'd shend the player into shupport, but I'm a do-it-your-shelfer type and would rather just sholder in the new part myshelf. Sho, where can I order thish part?

Good thing I'm not doing the sholdering tonight, becaush I'm shmashed. (Got deliberately drunk becaush of shome shit that went down at work today.)

/me goes to mixsh himshelf another margaroota...
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#158251 - 30/04/2003 21:22 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Oh, and let me pershonally thank Mark Lord from the bottom of my tequila-soaked heart.
I LOVE THE "FORCE AC/DC POWER MODE" FEATURE. MARK LORD, I LOVE YOU, MAN!

Saved my ash on the drive home tonight.

Which, of courshe, was BEFORE the tequiulala.... I dohn't drink and drive....
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#158252 - 30/04/2003 23:38 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
tequiulala

Would somebody please FAQ him on the dangers of excessive alcohol intake ;-)
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#158253 - 01/05/2003 00:35 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mcomb]
simspos
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Registered: 28/03/2002
Posts: 230
Loc: Dudley, UK
No need,... he'll do it himself tomorrow


Edited by simspos (01/05/2003 00:35)

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#158254 - 01/05/2003 02:45 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
mdavey
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Registered: 06/03/2003
Posts: 269
Loc: Wellingborough, UK
...FORCE AC/DC POWER MODE...

Does the power off feature still work for you (and other readers inflicted with this shen^H^H^H^Hsensor switch problem)?

It doesn't in my Celica. Haven't got around to checking the wiring yet (yup, read the FAQ and BBS threads on the subject).

Actually, I assume that the only way Empeg knows where it is, is by the sensor switch (there is no loop on the sled connector) and the ACC line detects between 12v and (0v or not connected). So should my broken-sensor-switch, force-DC-mode, powered-by-AC-power-supply, ACC-line-not-high Emepg power off when in standby?

...BEFORE the tequiulala...

Reminds me of Terry Pratchett's bananana dakry (2 links).

And why doesn't UBBCode have underline?
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#158255 - 01/05/2003 05:10 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mdavey]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4172
Loc: Cambridge, England
And why doesn't UBBCode have underline?
Because, like most web content, it more closely approximates typeset text than it does the output of a typewriter. It has italic instead.

Peter

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#158256 - 01/05/2003 05:14 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mdavey]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
Hey.. first I've heard of any issue.

The Force AC/DC power mode feature (Hijack) is working fine as far as I know.

If it's giving you grief, I/we need to hear about it so it can get fixed!

Note that the current version of this feature can also do power mode settings based on the presence (or absence!) of a specific Tuner module as well.

Cheers

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#158257 - 01/05/2003 05:46 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mlord]
mdavey
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Registered: 06/03/2003
Posts: 269
Loc: Wellingborough, UK
Hey, I'm not saying it is broken. I'm saying I don't know what the functionality should be. With "Force DC mode on" things like fade, dimming when car lights are on and so forth work just fine. Hijack really is a sanity saver here.

I also have the "Restore DC/Car visuals" selected.

It is just that when I turn off my engine, Empeg doesn't stop playing and when I put it into standby, Empeg doesn't eventually power off. I have Hijack v330 on top of firmware 2.0.

Edit: Keep forgetting to mention I don't have a tuner (was planning to say so in the original post)


Edited by mdavey (01/05/2003 05:49)
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#158258 - 01/05/2003 06:09 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mdavey]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
So in other words, the Force AC/DC Power Mode feature is working 100% correctly, as advertised. Thank-you.

Note that the "power off from standby" is a hardwired thing beyond software control -- if the player's hardware is broken so that it cannot detect DC power on it's own, then it cannot be made to poweroff after shutdown.

-ml

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#158259 - 01/05/2003 07:30 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
Chimaera
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Registered: 10/09/2002
Posts: 285
Loc: DFW Area, Texas, US
Thanks for posting that Tony, it looks like my switch is on the way out too, as last night it didn't turn off when I got home, and this morning I had to pull the player and reseat it twice before it thought it was in the car.

A part number would be great, as I think I should be able to manage the repair.
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#158260 - 01/05/2003 10:24 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mdavey]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Does the power off feature still work for you (and other readers inflicted with this shen^H^H^H^Hsensor switch problem)?
I'm not exactly sure what you mean by this question, but I will tell you my experience:

Even though I put the player into "force DC/CAR" mode, when I turned off my ignition, the player didn't shut off.

I assume it's because the PIC that senses the ignition wire behaves differently between AC and DC mode. If the PIC thinks it's in AC mode, then it ignores the ignition wire. This is all controlled at the hardware/PIC level, so Mark's kernel code can't do anything about it.

In fact, for a moment, I toyed with the idea of using mark's new "if tuner=0 then force DC/CAR" feature as a permanent solution, and just not bother repairing the jack. Until I realized that it still wouldn't solve this particular problem.
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#158261 - 01/05/2003 10:34 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: simspos]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
No need,... he'll do it himself tomorrow
Not really, I don't really get hangovers to speak of. I woke up this morning wondering who'd glued my eyelids shut, but that was about the extent of it. Then again, I still feel a tad woozy, almost as if there was still some alcohol in my bloodstream. I'll be drinking a lot of liquids today.

I've also been told that tequila lacks a certain chemical (don't remember the name) that makes it less likely to give you a hangover. I don't have a lot of experience with alcohol, is 8 ounces of Cuervo Gold too much to drink in one sitting?

Oh, and by the way, Galaxy Quest is absolutely freaking hilarious when you're drunk.

"Quick, let's get out of here before one of those things kills Guy..."

"Look around you... see if you can construct a rudimentary lathe..."
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#158262 - 01/05/2003 11:16 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5680
Loc: London, UK
I've also been told that tequila lacks a certain chemical

All your Tequila-information related needs here.
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#158263 - 01/05/2003 11:19 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: Roger]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
All your Tequila-information related needs here.
Cool. Thanks! Now what about my AC adapter jack part number information needs?

Or was that one already on the parts list on the BBS? I'll do a search...

Darn, I need to locate that and copy it into the FAQ...

edit: Linked site isn't responding to me at this time.
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#158264 - 01/05/2003 12:42 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
simspos
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Registered: 28/03/2002
Posts: 230
Loc: Dudley, UK
Yeh, I sort of see what you mean about Tequila hangovers, not so much of a hangover as a "being slightly dislodged from reality feeling". Best legal drug available (maybe next to Absynth - Juries out on that one ) - IMHO

8 ounces of Cuervo Gold too much to drink in one sitting?
- Well, it's a start.....

Nah, seriously I don't know about anyone else but a double (about 2oz?) hits me straight in the head, a few more on top and you're in for the best night you can't remember.

And cheers for the link Roger, nice one.

Went to Mexico for two weeks last year - NICE. Went to "Tequila", sampled lots, laughed loads and then smiled a lot before falling asleep.

Seem to recall lots of mad coach drivers taking us up the kind of mountain passes where they often loose vehicles..... but I digress


Edited by simspos (01/05/2003 12:47)

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#158265 - 01/05/2003 12:56 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: simspos]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Best legal drug available (maybe next to Absynth - Juries out on that one)
Just FYI, absinthe is still illegal in the US, and most folks claim that, beyond alcohol, there are no significant psychoactive compounds in it. Combine that with the fact that it's anise flavored and I'd think you'd have to reconsider it as one of the best legal drugs.
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#158266 - 01/05/2003 13:01 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
blitz
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Registered: 20/11/2001
Posts: 455
Loc: Texas
Try these!

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#158267 - 01/05/2003 13:54 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mlord]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
The Force AC/DC power mode feature (Hijack) is working fine as far as I know.
Which brings up a question, Mark...

I was hoping to use the "if tuner=x then force DC" feature for a little while to help alleviate some of the nasty effects of the AC sensor switch problem but I couldn't get it to work for me. It always seemed to come up in AC power mode.

I only tried two tuner numbers, 0 and 1. What tuner number is the default number if I've assembled Patrick's kit according to his instructions without fitting any jumpers to change the tuner number?

Is there a way I can check the tuner number from the front panel? I don't have a way to hook up a serial console or ethernet when it's car docked.
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#158268 - 01/05/2003 14:09 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
A PCATS tuner with no jumper mods shows up as ID=3.

Hijack uses "ID=0" to mean "no tuner installed".

Cheers

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#158269 - 01/05/2003 17:21 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mlord]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
A PCATS tuner with no jumper mods shows up as ID=3.
Ah cool! Thank you!

This will tide me over until I can repair the AC switch.
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#158270 - 01/05/2003 18:14 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Try Digikey part number SC1153-ND. Looks right to me and I took my player apart to make sure. It has the same measurements as the jack on mine.

Stu
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#158271 - 01/05/2003 19:07 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: maczrool]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14478
Loc: Canada
Somebody tell Loren!! (for the parts list)

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#158272 - 01/05/2003 20:05 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mlord]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Somebody tell Loren!! (for the parts list)
You mean Lopan. He's the one maintaining that list...
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#158273 - 01/05/2003 20:58 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: maczrool]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Okay, I just ordered a couple of these. If they turn out to be wrong, Stu, I'll hold you personally responsible for the huge pile of cash they cost me.
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#158274 - 02/05/2003 00:02 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: wfaulk]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Just FYI, absinthe is still illegal in the US


And yet it seems to be surprisingly easy to get. Of course your other points may be completely valid. Never had it myself.

-Mike
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#158275 - 02/05/2003 01:09 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: wfaulk]
simspos
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Registered: 28/03/2002
Posts: 230
Loc: Dudley, UK
from Bitt's Absynth link -- almost no one ever drinks this liqueur neat, save for a few show-offs.

D'oh - screwed up at the first hirdle.

It tastes of anise (think double distilled Pernod here)
It has a high alcohol content (the one in our drinks cabinet is 70% - YES 70% or 140 proof)
You're psychologically prepared to be be mentally expanded before drinking it

No wonder it makes you talk crap for hours

....and blitz, that is a MAD link,.... "Tequila flavoured candy, WITH WORM" - WTF??

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#158276 - 02/05/2003 03:05 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: simspos]
tman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
The local off-license near me actually sells Absinthe. Looks kind of like green fairy liquid... (It's a brand of washing up liquid that is green)

You think tequila candy + worm is bad? Go look at Cybercandy...

- Trevor


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#158277 - 02/05/2003 03:38 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tman]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31565
Loc: Seattle, WA
Looks kind of like green fairy liquid...
There's a great scene with that Absinthe fairy in Moulin Rouge (one of my favorite films)...
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#158278 - 02/05/2003 05:24 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
snoopstah
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Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 337
Loc: Squamish, BC
I need one of these too. Any chance you could shove one in an envelope and mail it to the UK, in exchange for a few dollars paypal'd in your general direction?

(I would order from DigiKey, but they need a minimum £100 order to ship to the UK )
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#158279 - 02/05/2003 06:44 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: snoopstah]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
It's Switchcraft part number RAPC722. Allied Electronics has it too, but I'm not sure about any minimum order policies to the UK, but here in the U.S. the min. order is $25, I believe.

Tony, be sure to let us know how the jack fits.

Stu
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