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#179787 - 17/09/2003 20:42 Now my player is dead aaahhh
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I posted a few minutes ago about upgrading a drive this is a different player.

I dropped my player it landed on carpet upside down. I plugged it in and tried emplode it worked fine. Then I decided to run the 2.0 upgrade the upgrade started then got an error.(sorry I don't know what the error was)

Now when I plug the player in I get the flashing led and the display is blank. All I get for a log from hyperterminal is this.

If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them speak now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of Linux!

I checked the display is not cracked and the nipple is not broken off. I pulled out the drive mount and checked the connectors.

Any suggestions ?
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#179788 - 17/09/2003 20:54 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Hopefully it just means you've only lost the kernel. That string is the boot loader which is in protected flash.
Can you try the upgrade again? And if it gives an error then write it down

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#179789 - 17/09/2003 20:57 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: tman]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I tried that now the upgrade doesn't find the player.
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#179790 - 17/09/2003 21:12 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
You need to disconnect the power and apply it when it tells you to. Otherwise it can't find it properly

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#179791 - 17/09/2003 21:27 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: tman]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I just plug it in when the program says to apply power.
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#179792 - 17/09/2003 21:36 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I think there may be a broken wire on the display cable (it looks squished anyway) Does anyone know if I can unplug the cable from the display side then I can try to ohm it out. Would that cause a problem like this even ?

I really don't wanna unplug it though because I will probably get it plugged in wrong.
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#179793 - 18/09/2003 03:15 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
Loose drive cable on main board.

Broken display - shake unit to check if the nipple is rattling around loose.

Broken #1 conductor in display unit (left side with stripe).
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#179794 - 18/09/2003 06:29 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: schofiel]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I think it's the broken conductor on the display. Does the cable come unplugged from the display side ?
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#179795 - 18/09/2003 07:21 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14484
Loc: Canada
No, but you can patch the broken conductor inline, without needing to replace the entire cable.

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#179796 - 18/09/2003 08:32 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: mlord]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
There is a FAQ entry and images on the RIOCAR site (see speedlink). Alternatively, you can send the display unit in for either repair or complete exchange unit to [email protected]
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#179797 - 18/09/2003 10:54 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
I would be surprised if problems with the display ribbon connector caused an upgrade to fail. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd think that all the software would continue to work and you'd just have a blank display.

I find it interesting that neither this player, nor the one you're trying to drive-upgrade, can be seen by the upgrader software. In other words, you're getting the same symptom from the player you dropped as well as the player you didn't drop.

This, to me, sounds like it's a problem with the PC, with the serial port, or with the serial cable.

It's interesting that hyperterminal works enough to show you the boot logs, but perhaps the receive wire is working but the transmit wire is not? Or something like that.
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#179798 - 18/09/2003 13:53 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
This player was seen by the upgrade program but it failed after the upgrade started. I think it failed because the player went dead.
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#179799 - 20/09/2003 00:30 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Ok Tony's right I checked the display cable for continunity and it was fine. Now I plugged the secondary connector on the IDE cable to the motherboard and a spare drive to the primary connector on the IDE cable. When I run drive builder on I get the error "couldn't find pump" occurred during stage 0x20.

Anyone know what this error means ?
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#179800 - 20/09/2003 00:51 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
I tried a different IDE cable and re-downloaded the drive builder I still get the same error. I also tried a different PC.
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#179801 - 20/09/2003 15:27 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
When I run drive builder on I get the error "couldn't find pump" occurred during stage 0x20. Anyone know what this error means ?
It can mean a few different things, all of which have already been discussed in this thread.
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#179802 - 20/09/2003 15:29 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: msaeger]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31578
Loc: Seattle, WA
I also tried a different PC.
Did you try a different serial cable?
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#179803 - 20/09/2003 16:45 Re: Now my player is dead aaahhh [Re: tfabris]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
Yes.
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