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#198026 - 12/01/2004 07:13 Jemplode explained
edsmiata
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Forgive my total ignorance towards programming and applications....but can somebody please explain to me what Jemplode is and why I may/may not need it?

Thanks,

Ed
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#198027 - 12/01/2004 07:25 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: edsmiata]
mschrag
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jEmplode originally was just a cross-platform version of Emplode written in Java (for people on non-Windows platforms). Since then, though, it has acquired a bunch of miscellaneous features that Emplode doesn't currently support. It's basically just a competitor to Emplode at this point. It's been so long since I used Emplode, I don't recall what it doesn't do that jEmplode does (or vice versa), but I'm sure there are some people who know of some things offhand ...

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#198028 - 12/01/2004 07:39 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mschrag]
edsmiata
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From what I am reading on the website it was primarily used for non-window based pc's......and i also remeber reading that it will allow you to back up your Empeg onto your pc in the exact way songs are arranged on the player (i.e. playlists etc.)

The question is...do i need it?!
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#198029 - 12/01/2004 07:40 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: edsmiata]
SE_Sport_Driver
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A couple of features I can think of off hand:

1) Animation Editor and Flash Tool (will let you make your own boot animations and send them to the player or send someone else's creation).
2) Updating of ID3 tags. I "think" it does this... If you change track titles or whatnot, you can tell Jemplode to also update that info on the mp3. (I remember this being talked about).
3) Updating of HiJack (automatically checks HiJack site for latest version and updates your player) over ethernet.
4) Built-in Logo Editor. Has Tony Fabris Logo Editor built into the program.

I'll let someone else take over from here.
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#198030 - 12/01/2004 07:42 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: edsmiata]
SE_Sport_Driver
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No, you don't need it unless you're on a Mac or something. But most people that use it are Windows PC users. They use it because of the extra features that are always being added. You don't "need" HiJack either, but it's pretty useful!

Just install it and play with it. You won't break anything.
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#198031 - 12/01/2004 08:08 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
edsmiata
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Thanks Brad..will do!
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#198032 - 12/01/2004 08:14 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
cushman
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I think the Dynamic Soup views are the best part of JEmplode.
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#198033 - 12/01/2004 08:23 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: cushman]
mschrag
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That's my favorite feature too ...

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#198034 - 12/01/2004 08:58 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mschrag]
pgrzelak
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Greetings!

A question - the main thing that prevented me from using jemplode was that it had significant trouble dealing with Windows 2000 and USB. Is this still the case?
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#198035 - 12/01/2004 09:04 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: pgrzelak]
mschrag
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It shouldn't have trouble dealing with Windows 2000, but it probably does have trouble dealing with USB -- That was always a pretty alpha feature (I never use -- no idea if anybody does actually).

ms

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#198036 - 12/01/2004 09:40 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mschrag]
Yonzie
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Registered: 21/09/1999
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I use USB exclusively... Don't have much choice either
I use Emplode though - never got around to testing JEmplode. Now I'm (nearly) free of windows though...

Totally OT: What should I use to sync with in linux with USB?
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#198037 - 12/01/2004 09:44 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: Yonzie]
mschrag
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http://jempeg.cs.caltech.edu/serialusb-HOWTO.html

But I never use this and have no idea if it still works ...

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#198038 - 12/01/2004 09:57 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mschrag]
Yonzie
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Thanks a bunch ^_^ Will play around with it later this week.
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#198039 - 12/01/2004 10:50 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: edsmiata]
bbowman
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As far as I'm concerned, everyone NEEDS JEmplode very badly. If you don't have it - get it
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#198040 - 12/01/2004 12:30 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tfabris
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Has Tony Fabris Logo Editor built into the program.
It has its own logo editor built in. Not specifically my logo editor.
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#198041 - 12/01/2004 14:24 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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Yeah, the JEmplode logo editor is missing the "download logos from player" feature. I assume that Tony's program must have that by now.

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#198042 - 12/01/2004 14:30 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mlord]
mschrag
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I don't have that? I wonder why? Seems pretty easy to add in ....... weird. I have download animation from player, right?

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#198043 - 12/01/2004 14:33 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mschrag]
mlord
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yup. download animation is there. But I didn't see a download logos anywhere.

Cheers

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#198044 - 17/01/2004 08:57 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: pgrzelak]
jdandrea
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I'm still trying to get jEmplode working with USB on Mac OS X Panther (PowerBook G4). It never sees the device. Suggestions anyone?
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#198045 - 17/01/2004 09:41 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: jdandrea]
mschrag
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There is no Empeg USB driver for OS X.

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#198046 - 17/01/2004 09:49 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mschrag]
jdandrea
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Bummer.

Maybe there's a way to run a crossover ethernet from the empeg to the PowerBook, but stay connected via AirPort. (Investigating.)
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#198047 - 17/01/2004 09:52 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: jdandrea]
jdandrea
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That was too easy! <LOL>

Sometimes it's right under your nose and you don't even notice it. Much better.
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#198048 - 17/01/2004 10:14 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: jdandrea]
jdandrea
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Working nicely now on OS X. About the only thing now is to figure out how to import files that have artwork (jEmplode refuses the files unless the artwork is removed prior to import).
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#198049 - 17/01/2004 12:10 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: jdandrea]
mschrag
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What version are you using?

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#198050 - 17/01/2004 12:23 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mschrag]
jdandrea
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It was version 45 ... until a moment ago. Now on 51. Heh-heh.
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#198051 - 17/01/2004 12:30 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: mschrag]
jdandrea
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Victory! Almost. Just synced up some gybe! to the empeg and it rebuilt the database ... then I saw this on output from jemplode (v51):

Retry #0 failed. (Failed to receive packet from device.)
Retry #1 failed. (Failed to receive packet from device.)
Retry #2 failed. (Failed to receive packet from device.)

Around this point the empeg rebooted, and - whaddaya know, the music is on the player. But jemplode is still showing "Rebuilding Music Database ..."

[Hey - import with pix works - yay! Thanks.]
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#198052 - 17/01/2004 12:42 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: jdandrea]
drakino
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Maybe there's a way to run a crossover ethernet from the empeg to the PowerBook

There is a good chance you don't even need a crossover cable, just any normal ethernet cable. Most G4 Powerbooks released support crossing over the connection internally if needed, so you only have to carry one cable with you.

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#198053 - 17/01/2004 12:45 Re: Jemplode explained [Re: drakino]
jdandrea
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Seriously? Thanks - that's even better. I used the crossover but if I can just use the regular one - fantastic.

In other news, jEmplode 51 is quite an improvement from what I've seen so far.
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