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Darn, based on the subject line I was hoping that you were saying you *had* information about him. We're all wondering where he's gotten off to...

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I have been offthe forum for a while. Has anyone heard what has happened to Steve Silva from Darkstorm? I have a order over a year old that has not been filled. PLEASE HELP WITH ANY INFO!!!

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Care to stand behind your words? Maybe he is, and maybe he isn't. Maybe he's dead. We don't know.

Whatever, my point is that this community differs from others in that cowardly 'anonymous' potentially slanderous postings such as your above are not considered helpful or wanted.

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Care to stand behind your words? Maybe he is, and maybe he isn't. Maybe he's dead. We don't know.

Whatever, my point is that this community differs from others in that cowardly 'anonymous' potentially slanderous postings such as your above are not considered helpful or wanted.

Given that a fair few people on him paid for lenses and never received anything (me included - me personally over $100), then I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment - illness or not, he was still around for a while after I'd paid him and pre him saying anything about cancer.

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Care to stand behind your words? Maybe he is, and maybe he isn't. Maybe he's dead. We don't know.

Whatever, my point is that this community differs from others in that cowardly 'anonymous' potentially slanderous postings such as your above are not considered helpful or wanted.

Given that a fair few people on him paid for lenses and never received anything (me included - me personally over $100), then I'd say that's a pretty fair assessment - illness or not, he was still around for a while after I'd paid him and pre him saying anything about cancer.

Well, you have the guts to stand up to your words, that's commendable. Thank you.

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Not my words I'm standing up for, I've long since given up any hope of receiving the lenses or a refund, as I said, even when he was still regularly posting on here I'd not received any response to PM's or emails I'd sent asking when he was going to send my lenses.

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Sheesh, it's wrong to agree with somebody now......

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Yeah, I used the wrong word earlier. Libel is writtten, slander is spoken. I think you knew what I meant.

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You absolutely have got to be kidding. We're in some world were we can't call someone who took dozens of people's money, never delivered and never appologized a theif?

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I just don't want the casual reader to think that these people who are complaining were being insensitive. They had been left in the dark for a long time and had no indication that Steve's health was an issue.

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I just don't want the casual reader to think that these people who are complaining were being insensitive. They had been left in the dark for a long time and had no indication that Steve's health was an issue.

That's fair. I have a bias. I drive around enjoying 2 shipments of Steve's work, so I don't feel personally burnt, but there were times when Steve's communications to the board were....difficult.

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Dude, I seem to have lost my bias, can i borrow yours? I don't want to be caught without... there are still 2 work days left this week.

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Two work days left this week??? Dude you gotta sign up for the totally sekrit public employee compact work week. E-mail me with PGP key for sekrit details.

Now, on the lens front, I must tell you that I busted one of my Darkstorm smoke lenses, but if there is anything else I can maybe help you with, lens-wise, to perhaps ease your pain, e-mail me. I think I have a blue one.

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I'm set on the lenses. I need some of that bias...

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You absolutely have got to be kidding. We're in some world were we can't call someone who took dozens of people's money, never delivered and never appologized a theif?[sic]

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I wish people here showed 1/2 of the sympathy towards the people that lost their money as they do towards DS.

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We aren't running a major newspaper here. This isn't slander or libel or anything like that.

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This is people who have been robbed. I think we need to look at priorities here.

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If I had to guess (and that's all this is: a guess) I would say that DarkStorm's troubles are so severe that the trivial little problem of him owing a bunch of people maybe a thousand dollars or so is so far down on the list that it doesn't even register on his consciousness.

When your house is on fire, worrying about what color hoses the firemen are using isn't going to be a big concern. Similarly, if you are dying...

tanstaafl.

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Besides, since you're accusing me of libel

I think if you go back and read his posts you'll find that he didn't say you had libelled Steve, just that the things you said were potentially libelous

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fraudster

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I'm sure it wouldn't have taken him more than 5 minutes to put up a message or email the people concerned explaining the situation (whatever it was at that point). He posted other messages, so I don't see why he coulnd't contact us.

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I sure as hell wouldn't want to check out of this world knowing that theres a long list of people being made "unhappy" by me.

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fraudster

Personally, I prefer the term "bunco artist".

All dice games are frauds

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Personally, I prefer the term "bunco artist".

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I'm sure it wouldn't have taken him more than 5 minutes to put up a message or email the people concerned explaining the situation (whatever it was at that point). He posted other messages, so I don't see why he coulnd't contact us.

If you had someone's money, and couldn't for whatever reason make good, wouldn't you be rather, well, ashamed, to step up and confess to that?

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I sure as hell wouldn't want to check out of this world knowing that theres a long list of people being made "unhappy" by me.

Well, that's you. Next?

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If you had someone's money, and couldn't for whatever reason make good, wouldn't you be rather, well, ashamed, to step up and confess to that?

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I sure as hell wouldn't want to check out of this world knowing that theres a long list of people being made "unhappy" by me.

Well, that's you. Next?

Do you actually have anything worth saying *at all*, all you've done in this thread is post pointless replies, which is getting rather tiresome now. If you've got nothing constructive to add, it's probably best to keep your mouth shut.

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i've got 2 other friends who dont post to this bbs, together, are out over $100. Plus, i'm out over $100

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My only interest was to question whether this saga started out as a scam or some sort of pyramid scheme. I don't think it did. That doesn't get you, Andy, Laura, yoru friends and other folks your money back. What else to conclude/say? I don't know.

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I'm only out $25 bucks.
Not as much as some of you guys but still, I could use an extra $25 right now.

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I didn't really want to get involved but I got "done" as well. I previously had 3 successful transactions with Steve. Very helpful all 3 times.

My final payment for $45.50 in Jan 2003, resulted in nothing even when I was trying to contact him shortly after the payment.

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I understand the point of displaying a ratio of "happy" vs. "unhappy" customers, it shows scale. But knowing that a bunch of other people weren't ripped off doesn't console the people that are out of money.

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More importantly, the poll has no way of gaging WHEN the events occurred. Perhaps 100% of the people that placed orders after day X were ripped off.

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To be honest, I was upset when I thought that the damages totaled in the hundreds of dollars range. But I think we've found out that the damages have at least tipped into the $1,000+ range. I think it's safe to assume that since this all started to happen a long time ago, many people may have stopped frequenting the BBS, so the number may be even higher.

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Another issue to consider, does "% of people screwed" somehow relate to "was anyone screwed"? I don't see the relation. Just because "some" or even "most" people were served well, does that make the "very few" that were harmed by his actions/inactions meaningless?

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And isn't possession worth something? Just because I didn't actively steal something, I am still responsible if I find myself in possession of goods or funds that do not belong to me. Sure, I may have not intended to take something that wasn't mine, but that does not make it right for me to keep it.

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Many of you know of the recent trouble I had in acquiring an empeg that I purchased from a BBS member. Never during that whole ordeal did I suspect that person of posting a fake sale in order to collect my money and run. I always though that he was simply inconsiderate and didn't really see the big deal in keeping a "just a few hundred bucks" of mine. But that didn't stop many of you from encouraging me and another member in the same situation to contact the authorities. Yet, for some reason Steve seams to get a free ride, even though we're talking about a lot more than a few hundred dollars.

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I guess the sad part of all of this is that considering what an understanding group we all are, a few simple emails from Steve would have put a lot of this to rest.

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Agreed.

You're breaking tradition here!

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encouraging me and another member in the same situation to contact the authorities.

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Check fusto's profile . He has transmogrified...or he has become anti-coastal. I am not sure which.

Yeah, I did a bit of a flip flop longitudinally.
My latitude however is almost the same.
Before: 42.37 71.03
After: 48.45 122.37

Hey, these things happen.

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All I can't figure is why you didn't invest in a longer trailer to take the VW as well, so that you could both travel together in the truck cab?

Maybe she gets on his nerves?

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All I can't figure is why you didn't invest in a longer trailer to take the VW as well, so that you could both travel together in the truck cab?

Mostly 'cause of the cat.
When loose in the car, he has a tendency to hide under the clutch pedal.
Not a good scene in a huge moving truck filled with all your worldly posessions. My significant other could much more ably keep him under control in the VW than I/we could have in the truck.

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I hadnt thought of that...

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I'll get our cat basket to you by courier, this very day! The one we transport them in.

Well, we have a cat carrier (not like the one Paul is advertising ) but we thought it would be inhumane to keep him locked in there for 10 to 15 hours a day for 7 days straight (Cape Cod, MA to Lummi Island, WA). Plus he had to come out occasionally to take care of business (i.e. litter box).
So we decided we would need to let him out once in awhile. During the trial runs he repeatedly sequestered himself under the pedals. Hence the seperate traveling accomodations. He got used to the car after awhile and spent the majority of the trip like this: