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#296617 - 10/04/2007 19:31 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: mlord]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
I pretty much have the same strategy. I think the only way to get those flying bosses is to have a hell of a lot of firepower combined with very powerful freeze towers. It also helps to not have any other enemies on screen at the time as well, or at least none that are within range of the towers that are focusing on the fliers.

But frankly, I don't know. I can usually stop the one flying boss in easy mode, but I haven't stopped the ones in medium or hard.
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#296618 - 10/04/2007 19:58 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Yeah. In easy mode, I win with all 20 lives every time. Stopped that after three of those games, and moved onto Medium.

Now I just tried the same strategy for my first ever game of "Hard". Completed level 50 with 3 lives remaining, despite goofing on the layout placements early on (damned mouse moves the piece after I think I've dropped it!!).

EDIT: played my second "Hard" game just now, finished higher with 11 lives remaining.


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#296619 - 11/04/2007 11:00 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: mlord]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
If anyone wants to do a little cheating (for fun - don't submit your scores - that's not cool), I've edited the game and put it up here.*

You'll start every game with 9999 gold. The only problem I've found is that there appears to be a limit on how much you can build, and I'm not sure what it is, but after a certain number of upgrades, the game will simply freeze and you'll have to refresh or reset. Too bad, I would have loved to cover the screen in maxed-out squirt towers. Still, it's easy to beat any mode with this cheat (except, oddly, the "Cross" fun mode - I haven't found the correct setup for that one yet).

* ps- sorry if you can't open RAR files.
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#296620 - 11/04/2007 13:11 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
That is his anti-cheat mechanism in place. If you decompiled his swf you might find his function that stops the game.

Also, I asked him about a sandbox mode and he said that he has plans to put one in. Right now, the closest you can come in his official version is the Fun -> Spawns mode. Each guy is worth like 80 gold.

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#296621 - 12/04/2007 11:31 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: RobotCaleb]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
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That is his anti-cheat mechanism in place.

Interesting. It's not really preventing cheating, though. You can still win FAR easier than you can normally.

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Also, I asked him about a sandbox mode and he said that he has plans to put one in. Right now, the closest you can come in his official version is the Fun -> Spawns mode. Each guy is worth like 80 gold.

A sandbox mode would be great. The spawns game is not fun at all. I hate that type of creep. Besides, don't you only get gold when you split them up? It looked to me like when you kill the last guys they split up into, you don't get anything...
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#296622 - 12/04/2007 12:57 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
RobotCaleb
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Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
That is correct. They do give enough gold to make it very easy to beat spawns mode, though.

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#296623 - 12/04/2007 14:42 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
The spawns can sometimes jump two diagonally arrange towers as well (as they split), thus bypassing the maze and making a quick exit.
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#296624 - 12/04/2007 14:55 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: andy]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Though they occasionally jump back, too.
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#296625 - 12/04/2007 19:18 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: andy]
lectric
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Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
And is spawns mode, the have to split twice. So 1 becomes 7 you have to kill, although they cut their hp in half at every split.

Same thing as challenge - 100 levels.


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#296626 - 13/04/2007 01:34 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
Very fun!! Thanks!
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#296627 - 13/04/2007 06:33 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
Go play Line Rider.

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#296628 - 13/04/2007 10:24 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: RobotCaleb]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
A new challenge with DTD, try playing it via the Wii browser It's a little painful. The Opera browser, even the recently updated one, doesn't display the game correctly, so I was able to play it, but I couldn't see:

-the creeps (could see their health bars, though)
-how much money or points I had
-the range of my towers
-the sell button
-the left third of the map

That was all livable, though. The real challenge was not having keyboard shortcuts, so I couldn't use the shift key, which was painful.

Easy mode was still fairly...easy.
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#296629 - 13/04/2007 12:53 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
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If anyone wants to do a little cheating (for fun - don't submit your scores - that's not cool), I've edited the game and put it up here.*

Sorry to change links, but I had to move it here.
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#296630 - 15/04/2007 03:34 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: tman]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Loc: Sterling, VA
Sorry to post about this game again, but here's an interview with the author.
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#306178 - 14/01/2008 21:37 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
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#306194 - 15/01/2008 04:55 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: tonyc]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: tonyc
2.

Is it just me, or is that much harder than the first one? Still, it's going to suck up all my time... smile

Thanks for posting that.

...I think wink
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#306202 - 15/01/2008 13:32 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
I didn't think it was too bad (if you are just trying to make it through). One time I did a double dare which basically killed me. Then I found "reset elements" in the store.

In a way I wish there was more money available... some of those advanced towers are cool.
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#306203 - 15/01/2008 13:47 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Waterman981]
andy
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Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
I concur, not enough cash available.
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#306204 - 15/01/2008 14:11 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I liked the maze-building aspect of the first one more. This one's still cool, though. I got through the first level (50 rounds) first time without a lot of effort, though, so I don't think it's harder.
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#306205 - 15/01/2008 14:14 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Waterman981]
Dignan
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Yeah, I was able to get to level 50 with a ton of towers, but 50 is really freaking hard, way harder than DTD's level 50, which I always found really easy.

Actually, it appears that this isn't a sequel to the one we were discussing in this thread ("Desktop Tower Defense"), but some game called "Flash Element TD." It's certainly better made than DTD, but I hope there's a sequel to DTD soon, because it seems to me that it's author does a better job at balancing the gameplay elements. I also wish there were a cheat mode to FETD2 (sometimes I like to just take a break and utterly destroy those creeps smile ).
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#306206 - 15/01/2008 14:16 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: wfaulk
I liked the maze-building aspect of the first one more. This one's still cool, though. I got through the first level (50 rounds) first time without a lot of effort, though, so I don't think it's harder.

I guess it's just a matter of finding the right mix of towers. For me, it looked like you could get through a good portion of the game with some evenly-spaced splinter towers combined with those slow towers. But how did you destroy the armored guys at the end? I couldn't get them past half of their health.
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#306207 - 15/01/2008 14:25 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I think a lot of it was fire. I had about 5 evenly spaced advanced fire towers that kept them on fire pretty much the whole time.
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#306208 - 15/01/2008 14:26 Re: Desktop Tower Defense [Re: wfaulk]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
My mistake was not reading the tips where it tells you that you can't make them slowed and burn at the same time.

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