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#32556 - 12/06/2001 16:52 multiple track info editing with emplode
DixieIand
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Registered: 17/05/2001
Posts: 64
Loc: Philadelphia area
look out, it's dixieland with his crazy ideas once again...

you know what would be nice with emplode? the ability to edit data in one or more fields of the MP3 info tag for more than one track at once

like, if you selected multiple tracks in emplode... then did an [alt] + [enter] and you'd get a Properties window (like always) but changes made to fields like "Source" or "Year" etc would be updated across all the selected tracks.

i know when i rip a CD and forget to change the year data in Audiograbber it's a pain to go back and manually edit all the songs one at a time in emplode.

oh well... i'm just on one of my wishful thinking days i guess

- Dixieland
MK1 : 6 GB : s/n 00246
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#32557 - 12/06/2001 17:00 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: DixieIand]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31571
Loc: Seattle, WA
you know what would be nice with emplode? the ability to edit data in one or more fields of the MP3 info tag for more than one track at once

Everybody, all together now, chant the mantra...

1.1... 1.1... 1.1...

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#32558 - 12/06/2001 17:04 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: tfabris]
xanatos
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Registered: 08/03/2001
Posts: 202
Loc: Denver, CO
Everybody, all together now, chant the mantra...

1.1... 1.1... 1.1...


1.1 1.1 1.1.... damn... it will be nice when I actually see that on my player... *drools* One day...

Damien Heiser

RioCar / empeg 12GB Blue Mark 2a SN: 120001043
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#32559 - 12/06/2001 17:18 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: xanatos]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31571
Loc: Seattle, WA
And Dixieland, just to head off any future already-in-1.1 feature requests, here's a thread where we collected the 1.1 features already announced.

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#32560 - 12/06/2001 17:50 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: DixieIand]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
1.1 1.1 1.1 1.1 1.1 1.1 1.1 11.1.1 1.1..2.1 1.1.1 bugger

Also Dixieland, In this forum there's not such thing as a crazy idea in this forum. once upon a time, someone thought computers would be easier to use if they used graphics to create commands and perform actions.

There are also a number of threads that address techniques and software to edit tags. Emplode is (currently) the best software to use for this. I personally make sure the tags are perfect before i upload them and then blow them to CD.

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#32561 - 12/06/2001 22:05 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: muzza]
DixieIand
journeyman

Registered: 17/05/2001
Posts: 64
Loc: Philadelphia area
thanks for the vote of confidence in my numerous ideas and wishes. =)

i, too, like to get all my songs all lined up and perfect before i sync. i actually have a separate empeg local root dir on my sync PC. (my main MP3 store is on my .4 TB file server - heh, no i don't have that many MP3s... i just keep them on my large box)

i sort, edit, and work with the files on my local root... then sync from there.

- Dixieland
MK1 : 6 GB : s/n 00246
MK2 : 16 GB : s/n 080000348
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#32562 - 12/06/2001 22:29 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: DixieIand]
xanatos
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Registered: 08/03/2001
Posts: 202
Loc: Denver, CO
my main MP3 store is on my .4 TB file server

It's nice to know I'm not the only sick guy with lots of hard drive space. I have 226GB and am running out VERY FAST. And I'm redoing my entire network, so I need to invest in a new box so I can move all my storage into a file server. Too bad there are no 8 drive RAID-5 IDE solutions as of yet. However it looks like Adaptec will pop one out. And no I don't wanna hear the SCSI stuff. I would do SCSI RAID if it was cheaper... however I do use SCSI for main drives so :P

Damien Heiser

RioCar / empeg 12GB Blue Mark 2a SN: 120001043
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#32563 - 13/06/2001 01:56 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: xanatos]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5681
Loc: London, UK
3ware do something like what you need.


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#32564 - 13/06/2001 02:49 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: muzza]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4172
Loc: Cambridge, England
There are also a number of threads that address techniques and software to edit tags. Emplode is (currently) the best software to use for this.

Bear in mind that Emplode does not write tag changes back to the original MP3 files. "This was a design decision" (that's secret code for "I'm not sure why we did it like that").

Peter



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#32565 - 13/06/2001 02:55 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: peter]
Roger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5681
Loc: London, UK
Some reasons:

1. We don't keep the original pathname anywhere, so editing tracks on the player wouldn't propogate back to the files on your local disk.
2. Once the files are on the player, we don't look at the ID3 tags again, so there's no point.

I did consider (and am still considering) writing the ID3 tags back to newly imported files (we still have the path before we sync).

This, however, requires deciphering the ID3LIB documentation, and getting around the fact that the released code only exports C symbols from the DLL, and we'd prefer to talk C++ to it. None of this is insurmountable, but it's lower priority than the other really cool things we're working on.


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#32566 - 13/06/2001 03:32 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: Roger]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4172
Loc: Cambridge, England
1. We don't keep the original pathname anywhere, so editing tracks on the player wouldn't propogate back to the files on your local disk.

Good point, I was only thinking about editing tags before sync.

2. Once the files are on the player, we don't look at the ID3 tags again, so there's no point.

Yes, it's not important whether the copies on the player have the edited ID3 tags in; it only makes any difference for the copies on the PC.

I did consider (and am still considering) writing the ID3 tags back to newly imported files (we still have the path before we sync).

Smart. Emplode has a better tag-editing UI than anything else I've seen [*]; it's jsut a shame that it's not a tag editor...

Peter

[*] Except for the one I wrote ; but, as that's Unix-only, Emplode is still the best Windows one.



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#32567 - 13/06/2001 04:55 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: xanatos]
Captain_Chaos
member

Registered: 18/11/2000
Posts: 126
Loc: Amersfoort, The Netherlands
You can do software RAID with Linux. I'm told it's as fast or faster than a hardware solution.


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#32568 - 13/06/2001 11:23 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: Captain_Chaos]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Hardware good, software bad.

(Just my take on it after dealing with customers who choose software RAID over hardware. The best though are the ones who do both.)


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#32569 - 13/06/2001 11:25 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: tfabris]
synergy
enthusiast

Registered: 20/02/2001
Posts: 345

Everybody, all together now, chant the mantra...

1.1... 1.1... 1.1...


D*MN it! The one time that ALL 3 of my internet connections go to cr*p, and you start the mantra. I SOOOO wanted to jump in on this.

Oh well.



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#32570 - 13/06/2001 12:52 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: Roger]
djc
enthusiast

Registered: 08/08/2000
Posts: 351
Loc: chicago
i have two of the 3ware escalade boards. one is an eight-drive array running under FreeBSD, the other a four-drive array on win2k. they are amazing boards - rock solid, and fast. i'd recommend them without reservation.

--dan.



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#32571 - 13/06/2001 16:12 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: djc]
xanatos
enthusiast

Registered: 08/03/2001
Posts: 202
Loc: Denver, CO
i have two of the 3ware escalade boards

Can you post a link to the products you have so we can look into them. I've been looking into a RAID solution for my storage.

Damien Heiser

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#32572 - 13/06/2001 22:41 Re: multiple track info editing with emplode [Re: xanatos]
xanatos
enthusiast

Registered: 08/03/2001
Posts: 202
Loc: Denver, CO
Too bad there are no 8 drive RAID-5 IDE solutions as of yet.

I spoke too soon. Just looking around. I found some VERY interesting articles... as well as a 8 Channel, 8 Drive RAID 1/0/10/5 IDE Solution...

http://www.research.att.com/~gjm/linux/ide-raid.html
http://www.3ware.com/products/escalade6000.shtml
http://www.ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=951372

Not even as much as I thought they would be... sheesh... I need to get one of these now!

Damien Heiser

RioCar 12GB Blue SN: 120001043
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