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#36933 - 22/08/2001 17:08 Does this exist as an empeg program?
drakino
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(Pulled from the developers site)

Does anyone know if the above output is from an actual empeg program? I thought maybe it was Kim's old scroller demo, but I just replayed it and it didn't have anything close.

Thanks.


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#36934 - 22/08/2001 23:23 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: drakino]
Jazzwire
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The old display program used to look like that (non animated) if you passed in /dev/random
I suspect that animation is a sequence of such screens.

Could be wrong though

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#36935 - 23/08/2001 06:48 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: drakino]
BillB
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I don't know for sure without having my player here to test, but IIRC you can

cat /dev/random >> /dev/display

Of course, I could be thinking of something else.




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#36936 - 23/08/2001 06:52 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: BillB]
BillB
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Then again, now that I'm seeing that there's stuff displayed other than static, this is of absolutely no use to you. Sorry.



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#36937 - 23/08/2001 07:19 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: drakino]
Dignan
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Is there supposed to be that much static in the image? I doubt anyone would want that! Without the static, it looks pretty cool though.

Was someone planning on making a program to do this to the empeg logo at startup and/or the custom visual? That certainly would be impressive to show off the player to friends

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#36938 - 23/08/2001 07:35 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: Dignan]
peter
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Is there supposed to be that much static in the image? I doubt anyone would want that! Without the static, it looks pretty cool though.

Presumably it's meant to be some sort of dissolve or annealing effect, where pixels keep getting swapped with each other but with a vague bias towards forming the empeg image...

I can't help with identifying it, though: I've never seen it before.

Peter



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#36939 - 23/08/2001 08:00 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: peter]
rob
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It reminds me of the SICK (slightly intelligent crazy rosebi, where rosebi is the plural of rosebush) megademo for the archimedes several years ago. They had an excellent static-disolving-into-subliminal-image routine.

Rob



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#36940 - 23/08/2001 09:14 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: rob]
peter
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SICK

Weren't they the ones that did that version of Tetris, that totally r00led? The one that shuddered the screen slighly as blocks hit the bottom?

Peter



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#36941 - 23/08/2001 09:46 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: peter]
Dignan
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I understand that it looks somewhat like that, but in the background the image isn't static. It's moving. the pixels don't appear to be doing anything but giving the impression of static. for most of the animation you can't even see anything. I don't know, I'm probably wrong

try saving the image to your HD, it didn't work that well for me on the page here.

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#36942 - 23/08/2001 10:53 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: peter]
rob
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Yes, it was called Tertis.

Dean from SICK now works somewhere around here and wears a suit. Erk.

Rob



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#36943 - 24/08/2001 02:16 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: rob]
peter
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Dean from SICK now works somewhere around here and wears a suit.

The glory of Israel is slain upon the high places; how are the mighty fallen.

And the guy who wrote Monsters, Planetoid and Meteors is writing actuarial software in Delphi these days. Hope I die before I get old...

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#36944 - 24/08/2001 05:47 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: peter]
altman
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It's toby's powerup demo thing, I believe. Supposed to look like a TV being tuned in. It may still be in the visual code on v1.03, but it shouldn't be accessible.

Hugo



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#36945 - 24/08/2001 10:24 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: altman]
Dignan
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Ahhh, now that makes sense. It does look like that a bit pretty neat

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#36946 - 28/08/2001 08:12 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: Jazzwire]
prolux
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Actually, all the static is generated in real time (of course!!!)
And the image is manipulated in real-time.

The cleverness comes in the mixing of the static and deformation of the image.

As Hugo correctly points out this visual was written as a power on sequence for the empeg. It was never used because it would be pretty tricky to implement a smooth animation at this stage of player starup.

It would be pretty boring to release as a standalone visual.

Toby


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#36947 - 28/08/2001 10:45 Re: Does this exist as an empeg program? [Re: prolux]
Jazzwire
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I have to admit, I didn't watch the full animation before making my reply...
Looks quite good when you watch it all the way through... =)

Perhaps you could use the static mixing technique as a transition effect between different visuals.

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