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#372685 - 31/03/2020 16:13 10TB HDD
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2464
Loc: Roma, Italy
Guys,

Any recommendation for 10TB HDD, these days? I may have to upgrade my home server.

Thank you!
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#372686 - 31/03/2020 16:20 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: Taym]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31355
Loc: Seattle, WA
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#372690 - 31/03/2020 17:48 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: Taym]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12220
Loc: Sterling, VA
Wow! I threw some 8/10TB drives in my Synology a little while ago to bring me to ~24TB total. I was at about 90% capacity and now I'm down to 30%.

I'll be using some of my quarantine on DVD ripping, I think.

*edit*

BTW, when I was looking for 10TB drives, they weren't super plentiful and carried quite the price premium. I ended up buying some WD MyBook drives and tearing them apart, which was quite fun laugh I'm not super concerned about the reliability of these things. I've had good luck with most WD drives. And I'm not using this as my only storage for the essential stuff, and the rest is stuff that's replaceable.


Edited by Dignan (31/03/2020 17:51)
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#372695 - 31/03/2020 22:40 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: Taym]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14235
Loc: Canada
I have not tried any 10TB drives, but I do have a pair of 14TB Hitachi WDC drives here that were acquired last year. So far, totally trouble free despite a somewhat dodgy UPS which I finally replaced yesterday.

A bit noisy on head movements, but otherwise pretty quiet. Fast. Big. They are being used to hold/serve the video collection here now.

EDIT: They are actually WDC branded drives, not Hitachi.
Specifically: WDC WUH721414ALE6L4 Ultrastar "Data Center HDD"

I got them on a deep discount in 2019; current price here is CAD$500/each.


Edited by mlord (01/04/2020 14:08)

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#372696 - 01/04/2020 11:39 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: mlord]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2612
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
I'm using a 10TB Hitachi (HGST) drive. Very happy with it. It's been rock stable for me and plenty fast, since I only use it as an additional storage drive (my desktop's OS and programs are on an SSD drive). This drive is actually a server/NAS drive since there are almost no desktop 10TB drives. But it works very good, and has been now for more than a year.
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#372703 - 02/04/2020 07:44 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: Taym]
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2464
Loc: Roma, Italy
I'd gladly buy two larger units, but they are really expensive, still!

Yes, Mark, same price here.

I'll try to wait a bit more, but mechanical drives don't seem to be getting cheaper as they used to.
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#372708 - 02/04/2020 21:28 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: Taym]
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2464
Loc: Roma, Italy
... and I just found this on Amazon.it:

Western Digital Ultrastar DC HC520 (HUH721212ALE604) HDD 3.5" SATA di Classe Enterprise 7200 RPM, 12 TB

at "only" € 374.04 , and 12GB, not 14GB like yours, Mark.

It seems a good deal, these days.
I may be going for it. Still undecided.

https://www.amazon.it/gp/product/B071W4BVVT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A293E49NB6QZYB&psc=1



Edited by Taym (02/04/2020 21:31)
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#372709 - 02/04/2020 21:46 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: Taym]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14235
Loc: Canada
My local shop has the 14T for CAD$100 less than the same thing from Amazon.. Not that that does you any good.

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#372712 - 02/04/2020 23:20 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: Taym]
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2464
Loc: Roma, Italy
Seagate Exos X14 Sata III [ST12000NM0008]
1200 GB, 7200 rpm

€ 300. Not too bad.

It's the best I could find on-line. Not on Amazon.
I haven't bought a HDD in a local shop for more than a decade. I would not even know where to go. smile


Edited by Taym (02/04/2020 23:20)
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#372731 - 19/04/2020 14:45 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14235
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: mlord
I have not tried any 10TB drives, but I do have a pair of 14TB Hitachi WDC drives here that were acquired last year. So far, totally trouble free despite a somewhat dodgy UPS which I finally replaced yesterday.

A bit noisy on head movements, but otherwise pretty quiet. Fast. Big. They are being used to hold/serve the video collection here now.

EDIT: They are actually WDC branded drives, not Hitachi.
Specifically: WDC WUH721414ALE6L4 Ultrastar "Data Center HDD"

I got them on a deep discount in 2019; current price here is CAD$500/each.


Sigh.. It appears one can no longer blindly rely upon WD drives:

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/04/...ected-channels/

The 14TB Ultrastars I got last year appear to have been superseded in the market by very similar SMR drives -- STAY AWAY!

The Arts Technica link above does have this useful tidbit for WD RED/NAS drives: Avoid those with an EFAX suffix. The "good" drives are those with the older EFRX suffix.

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#372732 - 19/04/2020 18:57 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: mlord]
snoopstah
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Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 327
Loc: Squamish, BC
Originally Posted By: mlord
The Arts Technica link above does have this useful tidbit for WD RED/NAS drives: Avoid those with an EFAX suffix. The "good" drives are those with the older EFRX suffix.

Unfortunately even that isn't clear-cut. For example, the WD60EFAX (6TB) Red drive is SMR, but the WD80EFAX (8TB) and WD101EFAX (10TB) Red drives are (at present) not.

Bear in mind that WD have historically made significant changes to drives without updating the the model number at all -- for example, in an earlier iteration of WD Red 2TB drives, you could buy a WD20EFRX with either three platters (slower, heavier, hotter) or two platters (faster, lighter, cooler), with no way to determine which you had externally other than by weighing it. Hopefully the negative press coverage will discourage them from doing the same with SMR drives...

The best resource I've found so far to help determine is The HDD Platter Capacity Database, which lists the platters used in various models, and indicates whether they're likely to use SMR. But even that may not be 100% accurate and complete.
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#372736 - 22/04/2020 19:52 Re: 10TB HDD [Re: Taym]
jmwking
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Registered: 27/02/2003
Posts: 716
Loc: Washington, DC metro
Seagate weighs in:

https://arstechnica.com/information-tech...d-smr-dont-mix/

Belloni confirmed that Seagate is using SMR technology in some desktop hard drives but stressed that the company is not "submarining" SMR disks into NAS (Network Attached Storage) channels.

Seagate confirms that we do not utilize Shingled Magnetic Recording technology (SMR) in any IronWolf or IronWolf Pro drives—purpose-built for NAS solutions. Seagate always recommends to use the right drive for the right application.

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