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#48131 - 27/11/2001 15:22 Stick Figure Fighting
Dearing
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I've got an animation up with some pretty cool Fighting in it. I didn't create it, I just downloaded it from here and ripped it frame-by-frame. I removed a few seconds from the beginning and cropped it to size (I hope the creator won't mind too much). To see it you'll have to use empanim.
Share and enjoy!
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#48132 - 27/11/2001 15:34 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
tfabris
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Is this an empeg version of the fight3 flash animation by zhu_zhq?

Cool, I loved that one.
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#48133 - 27/11/2001 18:14 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: tfabris]
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Same artist, earlier animation. This one only has 2 fighters (although one splits himself into 2 - so 3 fighters, total), and it's pretty short, at only 1800 frames.

Edit: I should add that any AVI can be converted to an Empeg Animation, provided the color depth is suitable and the proportions are the same. I picked this Fight AVI because it was already very close to the 128x64 proportions, so I just had to crop the top half of each frame out to get it into 128x32. There wasn't much action in the top half of the AVI, though.


Edited by Dearing (27/11/2001 18:17)
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#48134 - 28/11/2001 15:22 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
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The link to the animation doesn't work.

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#48135 - 28/11/2001 15:38 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
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Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Where do you plan on putting this animation? (ie. during boot up...visualization...???)


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#48136 - 28/11/2001 17:20 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Elite M3]
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Yes, Using the picker menu, It'll play a Matrix anim, Spinning empeg logo anim, or the "Stick-Fu". If I could make them hijack menu options I would, though ;-) .
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#48137 - 28/11/2001 18:00 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Ruffles]
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Registered: 22/07/1999
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jacksonville.net is down right now. I've uploaded it to RioCar.org, but it doesn't really belong in "Other OS Things". For the time being, try getting it from here.
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#48138 - 28/11/2001 18:28 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
eternalsun
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How about visualizations? :-D

Calvin

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#48139 - 28/11/2001 18:40 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: eternalsun]
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No way I could do something like that, but here's what I think it would take for each "character" in a machine-driven fight scene:
1) A finite list of possible moves, each with different durations and with fluid transitions.
2) Reaction to other character(s) in the scene.
3) Ability to sync the moves to music (optional). Heck, the whole program could just create random sequences and look just as good regardless of music, but how cool would it be to see punches/kicks sync'ed with bass hits or something...

I think it would be tough to do this well and not look computer-generated. What this animation lacked in dimension it made up for in creativity.
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#48140 - 28/11/2001 18:49 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
eternalsun
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I'd love to see Stick Figure Break Dancing, Stick Figure Disco, etc etc. :-D Whoo baby!!

Calvin

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#48141 - 28/11/2001 18:57 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: eternalsun]
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I'd love to see Stick Figure Break Dancing, Stick Figure Disco, etc etc. :-D Whoo baby!!

Yeah, it would be awesome to implement something like one of those Winamp plugins (like MpegDancer) where the dancer moves with the music.

Of course, since the window is lengthwise, it might be better to implement a dancefloor.

Wouldn't it be great to see a dancefloor with lots of dancers and maybe some spotlights? How about a lighted dancefloor?

I can see the visualization programmers cringing...
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#48142 - 28/11/2001 19:42 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: svferris]
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I can see the visualization programmers cringing...
Yeah...HIS name would be Toby.
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#48143 - 29/11/2001 00:02 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
muzza
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Cringing? I don't think so!
The graphics for the existing effects seem to be waaay more complex than a couple of stick figures bopin' around!
I'd love to see a few stick dancers shakin their thang on the display. They wouldn't have to be very big but you could get a few in there.
Then apply smoke trails and you're cookin'
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#48144 - 29/11/2001 05:26 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: muzza]
rob
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There was an iconbar dancing stick figure application for the Archimedes many years ago. You could drag and drop different dance definition files onto it. As we have at least three former Acorn demo writers at empeg I can't imagine this would be such a complex port..

Rob

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#48145 - 29/11/2001 10:09 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
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Registered: 15/09/1999
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What picker menu? Where would I find that? I thought I knew my empeg...clearly not.

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#48146 - 29/11/2001 11:07 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Elite M3]
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#48147 - 29/11/2001 11:30 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: tonyc]
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so your saying that this is just a menu of 4 options that I can have it display or do something while the empeg is on? Can these things be displayed while listening to music?

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#48148 - 29/11/2001 12:27 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Elite M3]
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Not at the time being. Picker assumes it has full control over the front 4 buttons and screen. It is called by my custom init file. Upon termination, init calls init.empeg, the binary file that used to be named /bin/init. Installing displayserver would get you a custom int that you could use to call any programs you want before the player starts. Just be careful about modifying a custom init, as a false keystroke could mean re-flashing a .upgrade .
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#48149 - 29/11/2001 12:28 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: rob]
rob
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Oooooooooo K - I just saw a stick man dancing the stonk on Toby's empeg. That man is fast

Rob

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#48150 - 29/11/2001 12:39 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: rob]
tfabris
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If he has a floppy hat and there is snow falling in the background, that's even better.
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#48151 - 29/11/2001 12:40 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: rob]
eternalsun
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ooh ooh, can i get credit for that? :-D

How about crazy stuff like when the beat gets really powerful, the stick figures heads fall off and they have to go scrambling to pick them back up?

Calvin

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#48152 - 29/11/2001 18:18 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: rob]
muzza
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>That man is fast
I thought he had too much time spare!

Please let it come out in the next release!
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE
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#48153 - 29/11/2001 18:39 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: rob]
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At the risk of being redundant......
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

Or someone put up one of those survey\poll things...
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#48154 - 29/11/2001 21:29 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: tfabris]
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If he has a floppy hat and there is snow falling in the background, that's even better.

But there should be an ini option to remove the snow after Christmas/Winter. :)

Bruno
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#48155 - 30/11/2001 04:53 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: hybrid8]
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could someone put up some idiot proof instructions on how to get this going please
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#48156 - 30/11/2001 07:04 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: thinfourth2]
Dearing
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Most of this comes from Tony Fabris' Picker and Voladj for Dummies. If you haven't read it, it's much easier to follow than I can write.
Anyway, here's how to get an animation to start on boot:

1) Install a developer image. Mount all partitions read/write:
rw
rwm

2) Rename the binary init in/bin to init.empeg:
cd /bin
mv init init.empeg
chmod +x init.empeg
(IMPORTANT)
3) Create or copy a custom init script. Here's what mine looks like:
#!/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/empeg/bin:./
PS1=empeg:\\w\\$
/bin/mount -n -o nocheck,rw /proc
/bin/mount -n -o nocheck,ro /dev/hda4 /drive0
/bin/mount -n -o nocheck,ro /dev/hdc4 /drive1
echo Running Picker...
/empeg/var/pick_list
/bin/init.empeg

Then:
chmod +x init(IMPORTANT)

4) This init will execute a script called /empeg/var/pick_list. My pick_list script is attached to this post. To run pick_list, you'll also need the binary file called picker(attached in my next post). Put both of these files in /empeg/var and chmod them both +x.
5) The first menu option in this pick_list is "Stick-Fu", which executes a script called /empeg/var/fight. This shell script looks like this: (Replace the &LT with the Less-than sign)
/empeg/var/empanim 0 1800 &LT /empeg/var/fight.ema

As you can see, it calls the binary empanim, linked in my original post.
6) The only other thing you will need is to upload fight.gz to /empeg/var, gunzip it and rename it to fight.ema, and chmod it +rx.

If all went well, your machine should allow you to start any animation or program you want at boot-up.
(IMPORTANT) ---> It's really easy to miss a chmod command and make your machine unusable until a re-flash. I've done this about 5 times already.

If you just want to see the animation, but not at boot-up, you just need the empanim executable and the fight.gz file (gunzipped on the player, of course). Just run the above green command to view the anim.

I hope this is helpful, but if not, it's 'cuz I've not yet finished my Mountain Dew this morning.


Edited by Dearing (30/11/2001 07:18)
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#48157 - 30/11/2001 07:05 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
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Registered: 22/07/1999
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pick_list script attached


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47235-PICK_LIST (91 downloads)

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#48158 - 30/11/2001 07:06 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
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Registered: 22/07/1999
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picker binary attached


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47236-picker (89 downloads)

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#48159 - 30/11/2001 09:35 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
Nosferatu
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I have put a call to empanim in mly init script.

The anim is personal. ;-)

Tell me what do you think about it



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#48160 - 30/11/2001 10:14 Re: Stick Figure Fighting [Re: Dearing]
thinfourth2
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sorry that is still a bit beyond me any chance of a few more tips like what software i should be using to send stuff to empeg etc and what the hell is gunzipping

beware i am a microsoft dummy linux is a different world
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