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#72003 - 06/03/2002 17:53 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: mlord]
jimhogan
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
Where do you guys find stuff like that!!?!

As much time as I might fritter away in the course of a day, I'm not very good at unearthing things like this. Also, I generally don't encourage most folks to send me jokes by mail (there are so many old jokes recirculating)....

However, I have a good friend who works at a local state university who makes much better use of his frittering and who exchanges tidbits with some friends at another state U. in northern CA and I am lucky enough to be in that mail loop. He only sends the good ones. I always ask *him* where he finds stuff like that but he won't tell!

Jim
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#72004 - 06/03/2002 17:54 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: loren]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5539
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Everyone has an unrealistic idea of their dream car... but that's one i could actually afford and drive daily without paying ludicrous insurance and worrying every second if it got a scratch. And by "dream car" i meant "my favorite body shape of any car ever with a kick ass engine slapped in 'er"

Absolutely.

I have a Porsche 930 Turbo Carrera sitting in my garage gathering dust... because I have my "dream car" -- the ShoWagon.

tanstaafl.
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#72005 - 06/03/2002 22:54 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: tanstaafl.]
ClownBurner
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Registered: 05/09/2000
Posts: 174
Loc: Irvine, CA USA
If it's gathering dust, I will be very happy to take it off your hands for you...
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#72006 - 07/03/2002 01:57 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: loren]
jane
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Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
I am driving my dream car. I haven't found any car I really like except this one... Maybe a Rover 214/6 Convertible, but it is not really worth the upgrade.
I may be lucky to have "cheap taste" ;-)

(I paid 50.000 NOK ~ 4000US$)

Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)

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#72007 - 07/03/2002 02:17 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: jimhogan]
johnmcd3
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Registered: 19/04/2001
Posts: 369
Loc: Seattle, WA (formerly Houston,...
Banking on my hopes that whoever grades this will just look at the pictures, I drew an exponential through my noise. I believe the apparent legitimacy is enhanced by the fact that I used a complicated computer program to make the fit. I understand this is the same process by which the top quark was discovered.

That's pretty damn funny.
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#72008 - 07/03/2002 02:39 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: jane]
thenominous
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Registered: 22/12/2001
Posts: 189
Loc: UK
If you like the Idea of a rover, check out this site.

My dream car has got to be something similar to this rex

Mine was written off (without the turbo), although not by me. Some evil people instead.
The first night
daytime (1.79Mb ZIP)

I am getting another one though.

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#72009 - 07/03/2002 06:54 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: thenominous]
jane
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Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
> If you like the Idea of a rover, check out this site.

Cool!

Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)

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#72010 - 07/03/2002 07:41 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: loren]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Any chance of all of this dream machine stuff moving over to an Off Topic forum, so we don't lose any relevent Button Kits postings here?

Cheers

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#72011 - 07/03/2002 08:22 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: mlord]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
My dream button kit would be blue, and shine brilliantly at night.

Rob

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#72012 - 07/03/2002 09:26 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: rob]
thenominous
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Registered: 22/12/2001
Posts: 189
Loc: UK
My dream button kit would be any!
Impatient? Probably... But happy to wait

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#72013 - 07/03/2002 09:31 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: rob]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
My dream machine has blue buttons that do shine brilliantly at night!

But the faceplate is amber, and I'm eager to see how matching buttons will look someday.

Cheers

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#72014 - 07/03/2002 09:52 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: mlord]
thenominous
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Registered: 22/12/2001
Posts: 189
Loc: UK
Well, whilst your waiting for them, you may as well send your blue ones to me since they must conflict with the faceplate and make a once beautiful empeg into a paranoidly private pengiun

Go on, you know you want to....

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#72015 - 12/03/2002 15:47 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: tfabris]
eternalsun
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Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
It does remind me of some of those college lab projects too! Where you start out with a box of used and broken parts!

Calvin

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#72016 - 14/03/2002 23:02 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: eternalsun]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
A bit like computing hardware in college.
Challenge number one: find a computer and make it work.
Catch number one: none of the computers work all of the time.
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#72017 - 15/03/2002 20:30 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: acurasquirrel]
acurasquirrel
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Registered: 10/01/2002
Posts: 186
Loc: Georgia
And the project begins. I picked a VX(the lightest model) up for 3000. It looks great but has high miles no biggie I have a GSR motor coming and should be in within the month. Right now Im about tapped out on the $$ from insurance(from the totalled teg) so the JRSC is gonna have a to wait a month or two but oh man its greatness.

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#72018 - 16/03/2002 08:29 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: acurasquirrel]
hybrid8
carpal tunnel

Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
You'll have a speedy little car. But it's still a civic, no matter what engine you put in it. I understand doing engine swaps on some cars, but not a civic... At least you have the better looking body style (just don't put any ugly-as-sin kits onto it).

Reminds me of the scene in (the worst movie of 2001) Fast and the Furious where they pull up next to the Ferrari in their modified Supra. Ok, the Supra would have completely finished the Ferrari by a degree not even depicted in the movie. But, so what? It's still a Supra. And the Ferrari is still a Ferrari.

Bruno
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#72019 - 16/03/2002 18:32 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: mlord]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Where do you guys find stuff like that!!?!

Ah, there are various reliable scientific sources (see bellow for one of many).

However, I came upon the most brilliant work of this kind by word of mouth some twenty years ago, before Internet (a late friend of mine, professor of history of medicine in Paris, sent it to me). The work is Experimental Demonstration of the tomatotopic organization in the soprano (Cantatrix sopranica L.) by a brilliant French guy (deceased, regrettably) Georges Perec. Pay special attention to references (some Franch helps for some of them).

A good place to start searching for more works almost but not quite like 'Tomatotopism' is here.

Enjoy!
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#72020 - 16/03/2002 20:50 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: hybrid8]
acurasquirrel
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Registered: 10/01/2002
Posts: 186
Loc: Georgia
Zoolander was the worst movie of 2001 first off. Anyway no body kits on this civic. My goal with this car is to be a reliable fun car until I graduate then Ill buy something nice and keep it as a track car. By the way that body style was the best for swaps because they came with hydrolic trannies as opposed to cable. The only exterior stuff Im going to do is have the side mouldings painted, black on white looks like crap.

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#72021 - 16/03/2002 21:11 Worst Movie [Re: acurasquirrel]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Okay, I've got three words for you: ``Freddie Got Fingered''. Or how about ``Glitter''? They, plus ``Pearl Harbor'', ``Driven'', and ``3000 Miles to Graceland'' seem to be the official Golden Raspberry nominees for 2001.
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#72022 - 16/03/2002 21:29 On topic!!! [Re: wfaulk]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
Ok, I, like some other members here have a late model VW with the IMO quite funky blue and red dash illumination.

Which of the button kits is going to be a better match?
Ideally it'd be the red, 'cos the the scheme of the car illumination is red on blue - dials and displays are blue, needles and buttons are red. But, if the red is nowhere near, but the blue is near, I'd probably take the blue.

BTW Brian, did you have any luck with your last attempts to make the buttons more diffuse? I seem to recall you saying that you had one more thing to try, but no response since then.

Anyway, to get back off-topic, give me an Ultima. GTR, Spyder, Can-AM or Sports. I'd have a Lot Of Fun(tm) with any of them...

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#72023 - 17/03/2002 04:53 Re: On topic!!! [Re: genixia]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
Any chance of Green soon?
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#72024 - 17/03/2002 11:18 Re: Worst Movie [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Warning, this thread is going offtopic again for a bit.

Freddy Got Fingered (caught part of it on Satelite), wasn't anywhere near as bad as Fast and the Furious. Glitter (saw some of it yesterday) was terrible. Easily worse, but I don't consider it a movie, let alone a moie for a wide audience - so it's disqualified. There was nothing wrong with Pearl Harbor. Driven was crap, but FTF was worse (MUCH worse IMO). 3000 Miles was lame, but not a pain to watch like the above.

I don't put stake in the Raspberries. Not even in the Acedemy anymore. They nominated AI for best picture, didn't they? That movie was tripe. Just adequate special effects, some OK acting, some horrible acting (Osment plus William Hurt), but worst of all, the story was so (so) boring and contrived. Useless. Bicentennial Man was a much better movie by comparison, but that still isn't saying too much.

Bruno
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#72025 - 17/03/2002 11:41 Re: Worst Movie [Re: hybrid8]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
>Warning, this thread is going offtopic again for a bit.

Sheesh.. some people will do anything to inflate their posting counts.

Cheers

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#72026 - 17/03/2002 13:21 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: hybrid8]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5539
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
But, so what? It's still a Supra. And the Ferrari is still a Ferrari.

[flame]

What a snob.

You think that just because it's made in Italy, it's red, and it is (oooohhh... let's all be appropriately reverent here) a F e r r a r i (oh, be still, my beating heart!) then it automatically is to be placed on some God-like pedestal and is incontrovertibly superior to any other form of mechanized transport ever conceived by man?

You remind me of the lady in my office who upon discovering the plans for the new line of very high end Volkswagens (with the W-12 engine, $85K price tags) said "That's ridiculuous. Who'd pay that kind of money for a Volkswagen!" like anything that says VW on it can only be a clone of a 1970's era Beetle.

So you take a Supra, spend enough money on it that you have maybe 20% of the price of the Ferrari it in... and all it does is look better, go faster, stop faster, corner better, operate much more reliably for a small fraction of the cost of upkeep, be more comfortable and fun to drive... but "So what? It's still a Supra. And the Ferrari is still a Ferrari."

Right.

[/flame]

tanstaafl.
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#72027 - 17/03/2002 14:16 Re: On topic!!! [Re: genixia]
bmihulka
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Registered: 15/06/1999
Posts: 259
Loc: Lincoln, NE
Unfortunately the diffusion did not work. So for now I'm going to start making the strait sets. If in the future I or someone figures it out and I make some better diffusion ones, I'll most likely have a special price for people who purchased the originals.
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#72028 - 17/03/2002 14:34 Re: On topic!!! [Re: bmihulka]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
I wonder if inserting a small bit of white paper (hole-punched?) into the back of the button would do the trick? Obviously I can't really test this. Anyone care to try?
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#72029 - 17/03/2002 14:42 Re: Translucent Button Kits [Re: tanstaafl.]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Unflame...

Except it wouldn't look better and wouldn't drive as well. Sure, it would probably go faster. But it would be a lot more than 20% the price of the Ferrari (not all Ferraris of course). And you'd be left with a Supra that was in the shop as often as any Ferrari.

There's something to be said about quality and class, and that has nothing to do with being snobby about a car (and doesn't have to have anything to do with that car actually). Supras have their place. But just because you can add a few things to it to make it fast doesn't put that driver in the snob seat either. That was my point. There's no sense in being snobby in either case. Another stupid segment in the movie. The Paul Walker character was still a piss-pooor driver to boot.

Like a Civic I saw last night. Licence plate said something like "4U2NV" (but in a more contrived combination because he obviously didn't get the simpler format). What about a Civic would I be envious of? It was a hatchback of three generations past (flat-back variety). I'm pretty sure he didn't have 6000 tunes at his finger tips while driving.

Bruno

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#72030 - 17/03/2002 14:48 Re: On topic!!! [Re: genixia]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
I suspect it still won't work properly. It might help, simply by the way of dimming the light in the center so the light to the sides looks a little more bright by comparison. If you want to get to the ultimate design, then you'll have to mould the buttons so that they properly carry the beam of light and distribute it, by way of something prism-like, or a channel like with fibre cabling, within the extremes of the button. A level of physics I can't help with.

Bruno
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#72031 - 17/03/2002 15:27 Re: On topic!!! [Re: bmihulka]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
I think the basic problem with trying to obtain more difuse illumination, is that the buttons are not shaped for it. Think of each button as a lens, bending light to its whim.

The top button is a convex lens, focussing the LED light straight forward -- practically invisible from the sides, but nice and difuse when viewed head-on.

The botton/left/right buttons are all concave on the surface, focussing light to a point at the centre of the button.

I like the current shapes, but one side-effect of them is that the light may never be as difuse as some would like it to be.

Cheers

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#72032 - 17/03/2002 15:29 Re: On topic!!! [Re: bmihulka]
ninti
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Registered: 28/12/2001
Posts: 868
Loc: Los Angeles
In reply to:

Unfortunately the diffusion did not work.


That's too bad, thanks for trying though. Regarding your blue color poll, I notice it was pretty close, did you decide which version you are going to offer?

Edit: Never mind, didn't see the other thread.

Doesn't matter that much though, my order is coming through soon either way.


Edited by ninti (17/03/2002 19:06)
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