Rob you are right that I am late: I remember first seeing the empeg and knowing that I HAD to have one. However there seems to be no product that realy competes with empeg/riocar anymore - the closest I can find is the phatbox and that just isnt as cool (anyone else know of a HDD based car mp3 player that doesnt suck?)

I figured the IP of empeg was not available: have you considered selling the rights to start re-manufacturing the riocar? or does sonicBlue/empeg not want to?

I agree that costs are the driving force, but I can dream first then consider the costs....

If i did figure a way of creating a similar device I wouldnt be competing with empeg/rio/sonicblue anyway as none of them sell a car based mp3 player !