got a wild hair up my butt and desides to see what else is out there in the market of Car Mp3 Hard drive players.
so I pose this question to you all.

If there were NO Empeg players in the world but you wanted to play Mp3s with a car mounted device what would you use (please include links if you can)

I have already ruled out karma, Ipod and a ton of other "portable" mp3 players. looking for something that could even dream of holding a candle to the empeg.