yes, i have looked at pioneer elite's.. they are really nice.. and _really_ out of my price range.. I personaly can't justify spending $5000 or so on a TV.. I have a personal spending limit of about $2500, which is right where the mitsubishi fits in. the elite also doesn't come any smaller than a 53" box.. I currently have a decent size living room, but having anything larger than a 46" (i'd love a 35-40" wide box) takes up too much room, and would reduce the airspace around my definative speakers.. (they need it to really sound good)

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