Ok let me clarify I ran 12.7@118. My car was dynoed at 265 hp to the wheels. I was running slicks with 19 pounds of pressure and I stripped out the back seat passenger seat, and spare tire. So the weight of the car plus me plus the quarter tank of gas was probably about 2600. And I did cheat and I ran 10 pounds of boost at the track, you woulda thought after the first engine I would have learned. I mean sure I can probably keep up with a stock Viper, but once any v8 starts doing serious mods Im left in the dust Ill admit, I mean there is only so much you can do with 1.8 liters.