What i think i'm going to end up doing is getting one from Cingular (they come with the camera free) for about $150 with a 1 year renewal contract since i'm not going anywhere soon. That way i don't run the risk of getting a stolen or grey market phone. Then i'll pay to get it unlocked or buy the cable and get the software. If you have hookups in that department, i'd greatly appreciate it! Cingular locks all kinds of crap on their phones and i wanna have full control over it if i pay for the thing.