i'm just sick of hearing everyone say they don't wanna pay the montly fee...
I think actually he was saying he didn't want to pay the monthly fee and for the box. I have 0 problem with the monthly fee, but it's the initial startup cost that's kept me out of the game. I just don't like feeling "double billed". Even with the free month of play time, it's still hard to swallow a $100 entry fee (for two people) for something that costs $30 a month to play.

From what I've heard, though, these games aren't the easiest way to make a buck. I hope it works out for you guys, but I think ultimately it will. A lot of people have been looking forward to this one.
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