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they can't be much worse than Renault dealers

Now you tell me, after I've placed an order. But having to tell the sales staff the features of the car they're meant to be selling you, is quite normal!

better not point you at the renault forums then!

They're not really that bad, In 6 years of renault ownership (2 clios from new) I've not had any serious problems, an aerial on my old one which leaked after about 4 years and a wing mirror on my current one which made a funny "tinging metallic" sound, but was replaced under warranty.

Other than the odd random pieces of plastic that occasionally turn up in the car, nothing major!