Me being awkward again, but I use the channel up and down buttons almost exclusively. I haven't seen any cable/satellite tv solution with a decent/fast enough menu system to make it effective to navigate so it is faster to flick through than call up the guide and browse it. Oh, and I don't watch mutch telly anyway, so if I'm bored I flick up and down until something looks interesting. Okay I know the numbers for Discovery and Kerrang and BBC News 24 but that is about it.