"I don't think its that bad for car manufacturers to trade pullout capability for security."

Uh... I don't know about you, but I can get to my current head unit in the Tercel with my hands alone. I don't see how it adds to security?

In fact I used to work as a security guard and every stereo theft I observed seemed to cut through anything that was in the way. They never seemed to be interested in how much plastic needed to be destroyed.

In fact, I have an ex-girlfriend who had THREE stereos stolen from two different cars in the course of our relationship. Two window smash-->dash cuts, one doorlock jimmy-->dash cut. Some gals have all the luck...

Thanks for all of your observations... I now believe the guy was referring to an installation without cutting the dash. I am really eager to get this 36GB baby into my car too. I guess I'll have to do some "plastic surgery" on poor old Dexter...

Brian