As we're exhibiting at IFA (and at CES earlier this year) we've already had a good look at it; they've done a good job to cram it all in there! (both the pioneer and sony units have integral fans) I believe the launch is sometime in 2002, and the rumours about the price are in the $2000 range - though as I said, these are just rumours.

Sony were also showing an in-car jukebox at IFA, though theirs wasn't actually operating - the front panel was just a mock-up with a bulb behind it (come to mention it, neither was the pioneer; it was there behind a bit of perspex but the music library was empty as I found by reaching around and pressing buttons ;) ). The sony one uses a laptop cd-rom, which looked a bit flimsy for an in-car unit.

Both the Sony and Pioneer are SDMI compliant and have magicgate memory stick slots; I wonder what restrictions the SDMI stuff will impose...

Hugo