I think the pricing is right on the edge. Anything less than $400, and it would have been a "cheap ipod alternative". Unfortunatly, $400 still leaves it in the expensive unnecessary device category, and $100 more than the cheapest iPod. Having had the chance to see one and play wth it a bit, I know if I'm "investing" any money in a portable player, it'll be a Karma. At $400, I'm going to have to wait untill I find a good deal on it, which will probably take a couple months at the least.

Matthew