Another thing adding to the confusion (and lack of public clarificatoin by Christians) is that "Christianity" is not a religion, it's a collection of religions. You can include Greek Orthidox Catholic, Roman Catholic, 2 differant Lutherans, Southern Baptists, etc etc. So if some people want to collect guns and have sex with 14 year old girls in Waco, TX and call themselves "Christian" there is little I can do about it or care to do about it, because they are not speaking about or representing me.

The abortion thing is getting Off Topic, but I want to thank Jeff (FerretBoy) for clarifying what the abortion debate is truley about.. When you strip away the NOW, the ACLU, the various power players in the church groups, all of which are in the debate for their own political gain, the main issue is "when does life start". That simple.

Can someone get us a 3.00 beta so we have something else to talk about ?