"Problem is, KDE4 is *not* KDE -- it's some newfangled desktop system that shares the same first three characters ('K', 'D', 'E'). The similarity and usability ends there."

Yes, what a bummer this is. I've stopped at Fedora 8 to retain KDE 3.5.

I really, really hate GNOME, but KDE will have to pull off a miracle to produce an alternative in time for 3 or 4 people to still care. Yes, it seems like after a lot of initial screams of horror over KDE4, I can't find much shouting out there. I fear that's because folks are just voting with their feet.

KDE 4.2 supposedly in January 2009. Supposed some new things called "features". No problem to stand pat until January 2010 if I had to, but I am not optimistic. Dang I hate GNOME frown
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Jim


'Tis the exceptional fellow who lies awake at night thinking of his successes.