>Somehow I don't think a $300 10 hour MP3 player is going to compete directly >with empeg that well.

Really? Right now all EMPEG does is music, assuming you can even get one. All the other stuff you cite is vaporware. The only advantage Empeg car has at this moment is Geek Apeal and storage capactiy. Is that worth an extra $1000 to most people? I doubt it. Joe Blow doesn't care about Linux or any OS religious BS. They just want cool tunes and if a unit like the Aiwa can deliver 10X capacity then they'll dig it. If Aiwa or any other vendor delviers a MP3 enabled CD-Changer then even the capacity issue becomes somewhat moot.

I'm still waiting from my EMPEG unit. Someday maybe I'll be able to get one.